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My unfortunate observation is the majority of people who voted for Trump don't pay any attention to current events and basically get their news via rumor. But if you want the true culprit, it's the 15 million Democrats that voted last time but not this time. The votes for Trump actually went down compared to last time.
I fit was a few million less I would blame voter suppression via things like purging voter rolls. But the drop is so drastic it is clear the problem is that at least 10+ million people simply chose not to vote against an obvious threat to the country because the Dem candidate for President wasn't appealing enough.
Yea that's what they're saying isn't it. 15 million people vanished out of thin air. Interesting
Well 114 million people who could have voted this year didn't. It's a combination of apathy and laziness. We could be like Australia and mandate the vote.
It would be such a game changer for the US, there are still people who ‘donkey vote’ which is either leaving a ballot empty or drawing dicks on it, but it means a far more balanced political spectrum.
Republicans won't allow it. They win when people don't vote, it's a fact. They now dominate the legislative, so you can forget about it.
The real solution is to raise the interest of people in politics. Look at the south.
Yeah I don't believe that for a fucking second to be honest with you, and I'm finding it difficult to not go insane with conspiracy theories about MAGA fucking with the vote counts, and becoming the same person I made fun of surrounding Jan 6 - except he has a proven record of being a cheat and all but outright stated his intent to cheat the election. I'm kind of dumbfounded that 3 hours after voting night closes the major news outlets are all reporting a Trump win which they couldn't possibly know yet, everyone takes this as fact and refuses to investigate any further. Official vote tally and certification isn't even until mid December by the usual schedule according to .gov sources.
Is it not just a little bit ridiculous to anyone else that in one of the most relentlessly politicized elections of the past century 15+ million people who voted last time suddenly didn't? 15 million people predominantly of the denominations that Trump and his goons particularly hate and wanted to silence? For that matter does anyone else find it strange that 45% of Latinos voted to deport themselves? I mean, some percentage I could expect, even up to like 20, I'd be disappointed but I'd understand, but 45%??
I am most certainly on some amount of copium here but I am incredibly surprised at the lack of any sort of investigation or push back or god damn anything surrounding what should certainly be contested results, at the very least. This feels very very fishy to me.
Ap news had a good article about how our voting machines are completely vulnerable to first hand attacks. I think they figured out how to do it. They had a LOT of help.
That could be an explanation if there wasn't a massive drop in turnout, which has a paper trail.
Turnout is irrelevant when the ability to hack the machines is well known. https://apnews.com/article/election-security-voting-machines-software-2024-80a23479d8a767ba9333b2324c4e424b
Paper trail.
Hacking the machines would be useful for complaints that the counts weren't accurate, but wouldn't affect turnout. Republicans got the numbers they were expected to get, the lack of turnout hurt the Dems like it always does.
I agree. Let's do a paper ballot recount. See if they match what the machines say.
5 million trump voters didn't vote this time around.