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This is not my personal opinion, I know Gen Z men who voted for Harris. But the voter demographics really speak for themselves, and maybe now people will look at the radicalization of young men as a serious (but solvable) issue.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Telling them the people who took them in and listened to them are vile, abusive, disgusting people

This isn't a matter of telling anyone, this is a matter of people in abusive systems realizing it on their own. You can pop over to the ex-Mormon or ex-Scientology communities and find these folks in droves. Its not random anons asserting the corrupt nature of these relationships but the folks who escaped them.

“those loudest about being victimized are the most eager to take their pound of flesh”

The loudest folks are the social media influencers. You'll regularly hear your Tim Pools and your Jordan Petersons, your James Dobsons and your Elon Musks, rant about how men are victimized by femininity, while profiting off the insecure and insulated men who have been roped into their carny acts.

They need to be shown that those on the outside understand them and are better people

The folks that profit off the patriarchy are the least willing (or, even, able) to convey an outsider understanding. They only persist by rehashing age old tropes of toxic masculinity.

They will only leave when they know they will arrive somewhere with the respect

They can only find respect when they leave. If they're trapped in a bubble of delusion, they're just going to get a shadow-play of Woke Liberal Virgins being mean-spirited losers and Based Trad Chads being triumphant paragons of virtue.