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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Okay don't rage at me. How do tarrifs affect the middle class?

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

We end up paying them. Not countries, or corporations. The cost gets passed to consumers.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Okay, but why is that specific to the middle class?

Also, wouldn't it make sense to tarrif all the businesses who are using other countries for cheap labor?

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What good do tarrifs do towards companies if they pass that on to consumers? When will that price ever touch their wallets? Its not specific to the middle class, the poor will also be eradicated. I just thought I'd mention we're heading towards a shit ass society where you are either poor or rich. Theres no in between, theres no comfort, theres just a boot stomping on the face of humanity forever.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well it should hit them in the wallet when people choose not to buy that thing because there's something better at the same price here.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But it doesnt. It hits us in our wallets, dude.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't buy the stuff. Buy the American stuff so it goes back in American wallets. That's the idea right?

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Do I need to show you the sheer volume of imports? What the fuck is even made in America? Electronic air dusters and other random assortments? Definitely not the items we use and buy on a daily basis.

But you know what, you seem to think this is a great fucken idea. So I'll just see you in four years and we'll see what's what. Its not going to be pretty. The guy said so himself.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you think these things need to be made by China? What's so wrong about making it profitable to make them in America?

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because capitalism dictates you make it where its cheapest to make it. Because a lot of these companies aren't American and it won't be made here. Because a lot of us won't survive the next four years with 30% across the board. American manufacturing is great

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Okay, so you get that we make things where it's cheapest and that tarrifs raise the price of outside business, and you're not seeing how that moves manufacturing jobs to America?

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why would they? You can't beat Chinese factory workers at less than a dollar a day. This won't do shit but make things more expensive. American Workers would have to be devalued massively to move the jobs back. Is that something you're willing to put up with?

[–] Mango@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think you understand. Things SHOULD be more expensive and that money should go back in our own pockets instead of the pockets of people who exploit cheap labor elsewhere.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I dont think YOU understand, that money isn't going in our pockets.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe not yours, but I work hard enough that I became the QA director of my company in less than a year. I'm doing okay and so are my techs.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Good for you then. I guess its all good guys. Mango is good so we're good. Thats all that matters is that Mango is good.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Do you think we should be entitled to products made by exploited labor classes? Is it okay that we're okay and they're not?

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

No. I know the jobs won't come back here even with the tariffs. Its not okay and this is not a solution.

[–] Evolushan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Mango you got to get your head outta your ass. If you think that tariffs will make jobs come back to America and even more so because you're doing good, oh brother.

Example: I buy a t-shirt 15 dollars in China. You're saying that now we can buy the shirt in the US. For 49 dollars? The money goes back to us? First of all no it doesn't it still goes to the big leagues in the t-shirt company while minimum wage is 7.25 dollars.

Secondly: if you can buy the t-shirt with tariffs 25 dollars instead from China, you still do. Why the fuck would you buy it for 49 in the US? Cause it's American? You know people got bills to pay and health problems right? There's a reality we live in