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I was gonna title this "And here I sit so patiently waiting to find out what price you have to pay to get out of going through all these things twice" and then write "Stuck inside of America with the fascism blues again" here, but I'm not sure if that comes off like gloating and that's honestly the last thing I want to do this morning.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 43 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (36 children)

Swinging left wouldn't have worked either.

There is no high horse. There is no right path. Us Americans have the critical thinking skill of an ant. The left should have fought dirty with a full blown propaganda machine, populist lies, and blatant collusion if they wanted to win, simple as that.

It needs a leftist Trump.

What are Republican's gonna do... demonize democrats even more?

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 117 points 16 hours ago (29 children)

Swinging left wouldn’t have worked either.

It absolutely would have. Progressive policy is insanely popular and easy to campaign on by virtue of being designed to help everyone. Do you think Bernie had such high favorably ratings because they have a thing for 80 year old white dudes?

Tell people "healthcare will be free" or "We will cap rent and build housing that won't cost more than 3x local median income" and then people can't afford not to vote for you.

Biden could have cut off arms to Israel, and hundreds of thousands of students so politically activated they're willing to risk their degrees to protest would be doing everything in their power to keep Trump out.

Instead they sent the police to kick the shit out of those kids, at great expense to the colleges, and called them antisemitic.

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Why then do countries with existing left parties and proportional representation elect further and further right-wing parties in Europe?

It's simple: They promise easy solutions for complicated problems. Banning immigration will fix all crime and the economy, opposing LGBTQ+ rights will ensure a return of the better olden days, climate change is nothing to be worried about etc etc

And even people depending on social support will gladly shoot themselves in their feet if it means someone else will have it worse.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Why then do countries with existing left parties and proportional representation elect further and further right-wing parties in Europe?

Obviously they haven't gone far left enough. /s

Some people want easy solutions. Not unlike Trump voters.

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