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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 13 points 12 hours ago (6 children)

I don't get it though. "My wages are shit, so I'll vote for the hyper capitalist oligarchs who will make sure my wages stay shit".

Punching oneself in the face is not the cure for a bloody nose.

[–] PortoPeople@lemm.ee 13 points 12 hours ago

Americans have no concept of class or class struggle.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I think the idea is "he promises change, when she says there's nothing to change". He's lying of course, but they hear him talking about an issue (without offering any reasonable solution) and threw their support behind him.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

They didn't throw their support behind him. He got the same number of votes as he got the last two times. The difference is Democrats didn't turn out.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Trump didn't gain voters, Democrats lost voters. The people didnt see Kamalas message and switch to Trump, they saw her message and stayed home.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

If their wages are shit, do they want more of the same or any change at all? Seems pretty obvious to me why they voted that way, especially given they don’t understand economics.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

I feel like Harris didn't even need to explicitly say she would fix the economy or change everything as much as she just needed to come out and say shes aware the economy is not working for everyone. When voters who feel economically dejecected see someone say nothing is wrong, they get the feeling no one is going to help them. A little acknowledgement would have been great.

[–] radiohead37@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

She did say that at almost every rally. The problem is getting the message out.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Yep. Instead we got them crowing about how great they've done and how the stats show things are getting better.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

That's what happens without class consciousness.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 hours ago

The problem, basically, is that people don't really have any clear sense of how political decisions actually affect things like wages and cost of living, but they have a very strong sense that political decisions must be having some effect on those things.

So when presented with the choice between "The situation we have" (which definitely sucks), and "something else" (which might suck) they opt for "something else".