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A 17-year-old from Nebraska and her mother are facing criminal charges including performing an illegal abortion and concealing a dead body after police obtained the pair’s private chat history from Facebook, court documents published by Motherboard show.

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[–] PseudoSpock@lemmy.fmhy.ml 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Use Signal messenger and have it set for auto deletion of messages if you must message!!!

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Signal or Matrix is also fine.

[–] Nowyn@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course use Signal or Matrix but please don't think that makes your messaging entirely impenetrable. I am not saying their end-to-end encryption has been breached. But a compromised device is a compromised device. Signal might be secure at least for now, but is your keyboard?

We do live in times of zero-click spyware and while the general public doesn't necessarily have to worry about things like Pegasus atm, it is still used increasingly and not just against people who break the law.

I do my best, although I do fail to be up to date every once in a while, to stay as secure as possible, but to think any communication is entirely secure is not a good policy.

[–] SkepticElliptic@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unless you pissed off an entire nation state I wouldn't worry about signal as long as you encrypt your device and use a password to unlock. Although I believe that some police in the u.s. have some kind of black box for unlocking phones. In that case, I guess you break off your USB port and rely on wireless charging. Even then, they could send the phone to someone to disassemble and pull an image from the device image and try to get in that way.

[–] Nowyn@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pissing off entire nation state or at least people in power in that nation is unfortunately easy these days. And while the average person usually doesn't run into these issues the shrinking spaces and criminalization of civil society even in countries you wouldn't think are that far gone are at the level that surprising people might run into these issues. There are also some situations where you don't need to piss off entire governments to get a lot of data from a person. Tech-savvy abusive spouse might be enough.

We are not really disagreeing here. I just think that we need to be open about the vulnerabilities and strengths of software. The security of Signal and Matrix are absolutely great especially compared to things like WhatsApp. But they are not 100% secure. Very little is.

[–] SkepticElliptic@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Agreed. Basically if you know that nobody will have physical access to the device and that nobody who cares has the money to buy a vulnerability from an Israeli firm, then you're good.

[–] Alkider@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I mean you don't even need that now. Anyone can technically do that with a PC and the right payloads. If anything it's best to use the internet as if it has a backdoor.