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[–] ebu@awful.systems 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

maybe i'm a weirdo but i actually really like this a lot. if there weren't armies of sycophants chanting outside of all our collective windows about how AI is the future of gaming... if you look at this "game" as an art object unto itself i think it is actually really engaging

it reminds me of other "games" like Marian Kleineberg's Wave Function Collapse and Bananaft's Yedoma Globula. there's one other on the tip of my tongue where you uploaded an image and it constantly reprojected the image onto the walls of a first-person walking simulator, but i don't recall the name

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I do like it also, but notice how they try to hide most of these strange effects in their demo video. They're trying to pass it off as a playable minecraft. Anything interesting about the technology is a defect to these people.

They also claim this is "the first playable AI-generated game" when the exact same sort of thing already existed in 2022 (and it looked a lot more efficient and haunted): https://madebyoll.in/posts/game_emulation_via_dnn/ Maybe it doesn't count if you call it "Neural network" instead of "AI".

[–] JFranek@awful.systems 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That article gave me a whiplash. First part: pretty cool. Second part: deeply questionable.

For example these two paragraphs from sections 'problem with code' and 'magic of data':

“Modular and interpretable code” sounds great until you are staring at 100 modules with 100,000 lines of code each and someone is asking you to interpret it.

Regardless of how complicated your program’s behavior is, if you write it as a neural network, the program remains interpretable. To know what your neural network actually does, just read the dataset

Well, "just read the dataset bro" sound great sounds great until you are staring at a dataset with 100 000 examples and someone is asking you to interpret it.

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 3 points 6 days ago

What the hell is this even arguing for? Is one module with ten million lines somehow better than 100 modules à 100k lines?

[–] ebu@awful.systems 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yeah, that "most of the internet will be Al-generated" nonsense is tanking my ability to take them as domain experts seriously.

still, something gets me about completely generated, transient-when-you're-not-looking, constantly shifting worlds. might have to collect more examples

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago

still, something gets me about completely generated, transient-when-you’re-not-looking, constantly shifting worlds. might have to collect more examples

It's dream logic.