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Decent race that for the most part, plenty of action, some really poor decisions costing Ferrari and McLaren during the safety car.

11 wins in a row for RBR. Max is always ruining things for everyone haha!

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[–] arokan@lemm.ee 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If Verstappen wasn't here this could be one of the greatest seasons in F1 history. But great drive from him as always. I was seriously impressed by McLaren though, especially after the sc.

[–] t_jpeg@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I honestly think Verstappen has an effect on Perez's confidence. Maybe if he wasn't there, Perez would actually perform better because of lack of pressure to keep up with a generational talent.

[–] nerdschleife@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The verstappen effect has been a thing for a while now, it affected the careers of ricciardo and albon, and in smaller quantities, kvyat and Vettel as well

[–] grumpyoldgit@feddit.uk 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All the top drivers have this effect, they make very good drivers look average. Alonso and Hamilton have a habit of crushing their team mates too.

[–] Ecksell@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except that one guy who defeated Lewis Hamilton in the same machinery to become a World’s Driver Champion

[–] JustAManOnAToilet@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He didn't have the guts to defend it. He knew he got extremely lucky and retired. Was kind of a bitch move, though I understand YouTube was an exciting career change.

[–] Ecksell@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

That’s part of the joke lol, Rosberg brings up his championship winning season at every opportunity and it has become a meme heh

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Barbarian772@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gasly was just never that good. Imo he is at most Top15 in driving talent. Compared to Max who is at least Top 3 if not 1 right now.

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just like everyone else not among the top guys, he has his great moments and crap moments. He did get a win in AT, while Hulk couldn't even get a podium during his 50 years in F1.

Funny to say top15 this year when the competition is so fierce and almost everyone has stepped up so much. Last year I thought Yuki is trash, and now look at the guy.

I think Gasly still has it in him too, but unless Alpine steps it up like AM and Mc have shown this year, we won't see much of it.

[–] arokan@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah, it could be the same case as with Bottas in Merc but it gets to his head even more. I believe his performance dropped around the time people started talking about him having a chance at winning the championship?

[–] DreadPilotGagarin@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago

I noticed this with Perez, had a good start to the season, then the second people start talking about a title race, his performance fell of a cliff. Hope he can get out of his own head, otherwise I wouldn't be surprised is Horner and Marko are interviewing replacements.

[–] Barbarian772@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

But Bottas never missed Q3. Him and Perez are in a different league if you talk about ouright speed.

[–] shakexjake@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Bottas still reached Q3 over 100 times in a row

[–] SeaOtter@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember the debate in /r/formula1point5 at the start of this year and last to determine where to draw the cutoff line.

I’ve changed my mind - removing Max alone, and it suddenly becomes very very exciting.

[–] lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's more of a Formula1Point1 at this point.