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[–] wewbull@feddit.uk -1 points 23 hours ago (7 children)

Is 20% faster than intel a step up, generation on generation?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 10 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

It'll be a step up from the 7800x3d, but how much is a question. The 9000 series in general has been a disappointment in terms of the gains that were expected, but it does show some kind of gain. There's reason to think those issues are fixable. Linux performance does show a decent uplift, for one, which has not been the case with Intel's Arrow Lake chips.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 27 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (4 children)

I know people meme about "Zen 5%" (sidenote: genuinely a clever quip), but most of that is down to AMD massively reducing the power draw of the chips.

If you set it to the same power limits as Zen4, you can get large performance improvements.

Gamers have been saying for years that stuff is getting too power-hungry, but when steps were made to reverse this, they collectively lost their minds.

Seriously, what are they expecting, a 25% improvement in performance at half the power draw, while staying on a 5nm-family node?

AMD were dumb for thinking gamers give even the slightest fuck about power usage. Gamers would much more readily accept a CPU going from 120W to 500W if it meant an imaginary +20% perf uplift over a CPU going from 120W to 70W with a +5% perf uplift. I say imaginary because nobody with a high end CPU and a 4090 actually plays their games at 1080p low.

[–] alphabethunter@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I couldn't quite understand why people were memeing on Zen 5. It's 5% performance increase while at much lower TDP, what is there not to like? Efficiency is plenty important. And even if we could see a 20% performance increase while using more power, is that worth it? What are the true benefits of a 20% faster CPU when considering pure gaming while we are already at the top of the spec sheet? The games where the difference would be a massive number of FPS are those like CS2 where you would go from 600 to 720 fps, does that truly matter? I like my pcs running as efficient as possible, that way I know they'll last longer.

[–] fluckx@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

To them it probably is. I've seen literal posts ( or GitHub comments - I forgot ) where they are raging their fps dropped from 420 to 370 with the latest patch and that the game is now completely unplayable!

They have a point complaining because the patch had a big fps drop, but the game is unplayable? At 370fps? Gtfo xD.

There's people playing on a lot less than that.

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