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[–] GarlicToast@programming.dev -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Are really going after the words of grade F pseudo historians of the like of Nur Masalha? LOL

What a waste of time

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's a pathetic attempt to discredit Nur Masalha's tremendous amount of credentials and works as a historian. You have no clue what you're talking about, as evident by your lack of interest in source materials about the subject, including reports by Human Rights Organizations and books by Israeli and Palestinian historians.

[–] GarlicToast@programming.dev 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A. Having credentials does not mean one produces quality work. The academic system is broken.

B. I ignore all 'sources' that skip basic inconvenient facts to support their narrative.

C. The basic facts of the region include brutality and conflict from all sides. The Palestinians are not some holy angels. They were fucked by history, but they are not victims.

D. There is no one consistent definition of Palestinian. Even UNRWA made a mess of the matter. For example, they included Arab job seekers that got stuck in the region.

E. Point D. is important, as a more consists definition is required. For a long term solution. One that is not 'from the river to the sea' or forever war. We are entering into a period of rapid changes (not for the better) due to climate change. If no solution will be found soon, there will never be one. As we are losing our ability to build.

F. If someone feel joy from mass murder (covering it up in terms like resistance dose not change what it is) he is a stain on humanity.

I will read your next reply, but will not reply to it.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

You've already openly admitted to being willfully ignorant by ignoring these sources, so it's no surprise you ignore the overwhelming about of facts about Zionism and Palestine.

The slogan From the River to the Sea is about Palestinian liberation that started in the 60s by the PLO for a democratic secular state, not Genocide. The Syrian leader Hafez al-Assad in 1966 maybe, but he's not Palestinian.

Apartheid Evidence

Amnesty Report

Human Rights Watch Report

B'TSelem Report with quick Explainer

Historian Works on the History

Documentaries

A shocking insight into Israel's Apartheid | Roadmap to Apartheid | Full Film

Palestine 101 with Abby Martin

Life in Occupied PALESTINE by Anna Baltzer

How Israeli Apartheid Destroyed My Hometown

The Gaza Ghetto Uprising

Anti-Semitism, Weaponized.

One year of Israel’s war on Gaza: Al Jazeera special coverage

Palestine 1920: The Other Side of the Palestinian Story | Al Jazeera World Documentary

The existence of Hamas, and any armed resistance movement, is directly due to the decades of violence experienced daily under the permanent occupation, the Apartheid State, of Israel. It's impossible to understand their existence if you don't understand the lived experience and material conditions they are forced to live under. There is no such thing as a perfect victim when it comes to anti-Colonialist resistance, not for the Vietcong, the IRA, or the ANC either. Can you condemn the violence of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising in the same way as the violence of the Warsaw Ghetto?

In the Shadow of the Holocaust by Masha Gessen, the situation in Gaza is compared to the Warsaw Ghettos. The comparison was also made by a Palestinian poet who was later killed by an Israeli airstrike. Adi Callai, an Israeli, has also written on the parallels in his article The Gaza Ghetto Uprising and expanded upon in his corresponding video