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PSA: Lemmy votes can be manipulated (feddit.nl)
submitted 1 year ago by koper@feddit.nl to c/fediverse@lemmy.ml
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The best part of the fediverse is that anyone can run their own server. The downside of this is that anyone can easily create hordes of fake accounts, as I will now demonstrate.

Fighting fake accounts is hard and most implementations do not currently have an effective way of filtering out fake accounts. I'm sure that the developers will step in if this becomes a bigger problem. Until then, remember that votes are just a number.

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[–] reallynotnick@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe I'm misunderstanding karma, but Memmy appears to show the total upvotes I've gotten for comments and posts, isn't that basically karma?

[–] influence1123@psychedelia.ink 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think other people can see it though. On Reddit bot accounts would rack up karma so that when they switch to posting spam it looks like they have a lot of karma and are someone who posts worthwhile things.

[–] Rufio@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m using wefwef and can see what everyone score is on any given comment as well as their overall score when I go to their profile

[–] riceandbeans161@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

same on Memmy for me

[–] influence1123@psychedelia.ink 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah I was wrong. I use Jerboa mostly.

[–] reallynotnick@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can click on you and see the same stats for you... though the numbers seems too low when I eyeball it compared to your comments, but I'm thinking maybe it's just total points for a single lemmy server?

[–] influence1123@psychedelia.ink 3 points 1 year ago

I guess I was wrong. I shouldn't have assumed. I'm using Jerboa.

[–] Someology@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

On Reddit, in addition to your posts and comments having visible scores, your username also has an aggregate score, which LEmmy does not have. At least, when I do to your profile, I can see the scores for your posts and comments, but I cannot see any aggregate score for you as a user. That's what Reddit Karma is. I don't know what black magic formula Reddit calculates it from, as old Reddit and new Reddit show different Karma numbers for the same user, but whatever algorithm they use, it's an overall user score that Lemmy does not have (so far, at least).

[–] muddybulldog@mylemmy.win 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While the Lemmy UI doesn't expose the data is available via the API. That's how clients like Memmy are getting it.

[–] Someology@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Yep! I just saw this other post where I learned I was wrong. That's what I get for just using Lemmy itself. https://lemmy.world/post/1250922?scrollToComments=true