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[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Actually, now that I think about it, has there even been a piece of media showing a utopia as capitalist? All the genuine utopias I can think of are usually at least socialist leaning. I say genuine cause there's also a huge number of works about "utopias" where the whole plot is about how the society isn't actually a utopia.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

that's because a capitalist Utopia is in no way realistic (and acutally self-contradictory). The only future Capitalism offers is a dystopian one (if we even get to have a future, which is not all that likely under current circumstances)

[–] TurretCorruption@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the closest we might would be a mixed economy utopia, where capitalism co-exists with things like workers rights and whatnot. Its probably difficult to write a believeable capalist utopia because it requires that the people at the top are all saints.

Although, with the advances in AI, maybe someone could write a story about some megacorp AI meeting everybody's needs. It might be an interesting writing experiment.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Although, with the advances in AI, maybe someone could write a story about some megacorp AI meeting everybody’s needs. It might be an interesting writing experiment.

You mean like iRobot?

[–] TurretCorruption@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tbh I haven't read it. I instead saw the will smith movie that has almost nothing to do with the book.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I was actually talking about the movie! Featuring an AI that comes up with a plan for "meeting everybody's needs." ;)

[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 2 points 1 year ago

I think the word you're looking for in reference to a utopia not being a utopia is "dystopia".

[–] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There has to be one, but i think most sci-fi authors are left-leaning so their utopias and dystopias both reflect that.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you're, uh, pretty super wrong about sci-fi authors being leftists. Maybe the modern ones, but historically they've been pretty right wing.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

You've got a point there... Robert Heinlein's books were so fashy that Verhoeven decided the only way Starship Troopers could be turned into a film was if it was done as satire.