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[–] swlabr@awful.systems 11 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

https://www.infoworld.com/article/3595687/googles-flutter-framework-has-been-forked.html/

I’m currently using Flutter. It’s good! And useful! Much better than AI. It being mostly developed by Google has been a bit of a worry since Google is known to shoot itself in the foot by killing off its own products.

So while it’s no big deal to have an open source codebase forked, just wanted to highlight this part of the article:

Carroll also claimed that Google’s focus on AI caused the Flutter team to deprioritize desktop platforms, and he stressed the difficulty of working with the current Flutter team

Described as “Flutter+” by Carroll, Flock “will remain constantly up to date with Flutter, he said. Flock will add important bug fixes, and popular community features, which the Flutter team either can’t, or won’t implement.”

I hope this goes well!

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

that android project of some months was a venture into flutter (and haven’t touched it before)

I had similar impressions on some things, and mixed on other

dart’s a moderately good language with some nice primitive, tooling overall is pretty mature, broad strokes works well for variant targeting and shit

libraries though holy shit the current situation (then) was a mess. one minor flutter sdk upgrade and a whole bunch of things just exploded (serialisation things in nosql-type libraries I tried to use for the ostensible desired magic factor (just went back to sqlite stuff again after)). this can’t have been due to sdk drift alone, and felt like an iceberg problem

and then the documentation: fucking awful, for starting. excellent as technical documentation once you grok shit but before that all the examples and things are terrible. lots of extremely important details hidden in single mentions in offhand sentences in places that if you don’t happen to be looking at that exact page good luck finding it. this, too, felt like inadequate care and attention by el goog

I imagine if one is working with this every day you know the lay of the land and where to avoid stepping into holes, but wow was I surprised at how much it was possible to rapidly rakestep, given what the language pitches as

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes to be clear when I say flutter is “good” I deliberately avoided a definition of “good”. I find it… usable.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 2 weeks ago

yep yep - didn’t mean to argue with your post inasmuch as to fill in details to the fork, but I guess I could’ve been clearer about that