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[–] Drusas@fedia.io 53 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Flounders are not bilaterally symmetrical.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 95 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 42 points 1 month ago (1 children)

YOU'RE NOT BILATERALLY SYMMETRICAL

[–] BalooWasWahoo@links.hackliberty.org 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

He can't understand you, dude.

Hey,

Flounder!

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's a little hard to pick up, but it's all about one rule: Everything has to be on one side of the page.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago

Ah, thanks, I really don't speak flounder too well. Really should learn considering how close to Norway I live

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

In the tree of life, flounders are a sub-sub-...-sub-species of bilaterally symmetrical animals: https://www.onezoom.org/life/@Holozoa=5246131?otthome=%40_ozid%3D1&highlight=path%3A%40Apionichthys_finis%3D3640785&highlight=path%3A%40Bilateria%3D117569#x2913,y-2310,w8.2796

Edit: let me preemptively be a pedant to myself and say that "sub-...-species" is wrong because "bilaterally symmetrical animals" is not a species. Flounder is itself a species AFAIK, not a sub-species of anything. It is a descendant of the common ancestor of all bilaterally symmetrical animals. There, now surely no one will find anything to be pedantic about :D

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I appreciate that information. However, flounders themselves are not bilaterally symmetrical. I have caught many dozens of them and it's pretty easy to tell that they are not.

[–] austinfloyd@ttrpg.network 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Flounders are born symmetrical; eye migration happens as they transition to the juvenile stage of growth.

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Isn't it referring to during development? Like as they're forming, they are bilateral? I haven't taken developmental biology in many years, so I'm maybe wrong.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They are born (or hatch too lazy to look up) and their eyes move later once they get larger.

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah. I just wasn't sure at what point things are considered to be bilateral or otherwise.

I thought it may have been during the development process, but can't remember.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're only bilateral when they're very young. And even then, everyone is just focusing on the eyes. The body of the fish is also not exactly bilateral. Just fillet a flounder of any age (or watch a video on it) and you'll see.

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Sorry, I'm talking about like when the fish first starts developing. Like how the initial cells orient themselves. I just have to look up what the definition actually is.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

Oh, I know. It's very interesting. But when people imagine a flounder, they generally don't imagine a juvenile unless juvenile has been specified.

[–] azi@mander.xyz 7 points 1 month ago

Just like starfish!

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Forego the illusion of species and families. It's taxa all the way down.

[–] Morphit@feddit.uk 18 points 1 month ago

It depends on whether it was a larvae or not.

[–] blackbrook@mander.xyz 5 points 1 month ago

They're "differently symmetrical."