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My experience with ML Socialists has been nothing but hostile. Anytime I've had questions or tried to have a discussion with a socialist about socialism, the response has been nothing but pure acid from them. Change is slow, and we're slowly becoming more liberal as a people. They view socialized democracy as cowtowing to imperialism, and they seem to advocate for violent revolution to enact they're goals. I literally can't support that.
I would love for the US to become more socialized, for the workers to be more empowered, for people to live with better healthcare, less stress, and better safety nets...but as a social democrat, I'm the fucking enemy to them. As they described me, I'm imperialist scum.
I considered myself pretty far left.....but those people? They fucking scare me...
... But if it's more convenient for you to believe that I'm a paid government shill, then so be it.
But who is "they"? Who are these "socialists"? That's my point. How is blanket characterizing a whole group based on your experiences with a few people any different from what "the other guys" do?
To me it's irony at its finest. But I'm sure "they", are worse than you.
Marxist Leninist Socialists primarily, if you read my comment. I'm a Social Democrat, and I've received enough disrespect from ML Socialists, that I'm done trying to interact with them entirely. I get that your trying to minimize my argument, by acting like I'm attacking socialism entirely and act like I'm some sort of government plant....hence, again, why I'm stating quite plainly that I'm a Social Democrat.
The otherside of the coin is that I want to reform our system by trying to fix the problems of capitalism, and they want a revolution to completely dismantle it. I believe that the reality of implementing a socialist economy is completely unrealistic in a country as big as ours within the next 25-50 years, and that a revolution (which they are essentially advocating for) would introduce chaos and uncertainty into our country, and inherently the world. There's no reality in which the movement gains widespread popular support in the short time frame that ML Socialists want. I firmly believe that the transition to a social democracy is a safer, more logical transition, and that as we adopt socialized programs, provide a better landscape for unions, and start reigning in inequality, we will naturally have more widespread support for a transition to a more socialist economy.
Metaphorically speaking, I want to slowly fix the problems that have cropped up around my house and upgrade things over time....they want to burn it down and build something that they believe is better. And they don't like me because of that, that I'm essentially impeding their progress.
Still "irony" at it's finest?
Yep. Lol. it only gets better.
I engaged with you in good faith, and you were merely a troll. Got it.