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[–] JonsJava@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (4 children)

As a mod, I've seen this too much.

Not saying all, but many green party people advocating for Harris' defeat. As much as they may hope, Jill Stein was never a viable option, so who were they rallying for?

Those are the same people I never heard advocate for green party at local, county, state, or other federal office positions.

A few - like 3-5 people - were militant enough, I can believe it COULD be (not saying it was) a leftist.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If someone is only active in rabble rousing and not in supporting any affirmative ideas or actions around solutions to problems, then I tend to have a bit of suspicion that we're simply dealing with a rabble rouser, and not someone interested in any actual improvements. It doesn't really matter, to a rabble rouser, what the rousing is towards, since chaos is the goal. Any nebulous direction works, so long as the push is towards chaos.

If your goal is to watch the world burn, you do need an excuse for that. You can't just be like "well, I like the idea of collapse, suffering and death. don't you? c'mon, it'll be fun."

Most leftists have actual policy discussions, proposals, specifics that they'd like to see implemented. They'll actually applaud movement in a positive direction. Not all, though.

[–] JonsJava@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

You said it better than I ever could

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

This is going to be a "no true Scotsman" statement, but when a "leftist" loves authoritarianism so much that they find themselves advocating and cheering for the furthest right of the only two possible outcomes, I disagree that they are leftists. Especially so when they are also huge fans of state capitalist nations that produce hundreds of billionaires.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not saying all, but many green party people advocating for Harris’ defeat.

Hit us up with some links!

[–] JonsJava@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Just check mod logs for "genocide". Many are those people