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Puerto Ricans cannot vote in general elections despite being U.S. citizens, but they can exert a powerful influence with relatives on the mainland. Phones across the island of 3.2 million people were ringing minutes after the speaker derided the U.S. territory Sunday night, and they still buzzed Monday.

Democratic Vice President Kamala Harris is competing with Trump to win over Puerto Rican communities in Pennsylvania and other swing states. Shortly after stand-up comic Tony Hinchcliffe said that, “I don’t know if you guys know this, but there’s literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. I think it’s called Puerto Rico,” Puerto Rican reggaeton superstar Bad Bunny announced he was backing Harris.

After Sunday’s rally, a senior adviser for the Trump campain, Danielle Alvarez, said in a statement that Hinchcliffe’s joke did “not reflect the views of President Trump or the campaign.”

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[–] mitchty@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Only citizens residing in a state for the majority of the year can vote for federal elections. Basically you need a senator to vote federally. Hawaii and all other states were the same way when they too were territories. All PR needs to do is vote for statehood and then I guess the political shitshow starts as well as flag redesign.

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Except we made an exception for citizens that reside in Washington DC. They have no representative in the senate, but were given 3 electoral college votes for president and vice president.

So we totally can (and have) extended the right to vote to citizens living outside one of the 50 states to vote, we just won't for Puerto Rico. :(

[–] mitchty@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

That exception was the 23rd amendment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-third_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

Puerto Ricans as an example don’t meet the same conditions e.g. paying federal income tax. Hence statehood as their option to representation.

[–] wolfpack86@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You aren't correct. https://www.fvap.gov/citizen-voter/voting-residence

You generally need to have established residency in a state at some point in your life, but there is zero requirement to spend any time there if you live abroad in order to retain your voting rights. Several states allow children who have been born overseas the right to vote at their parents last US address.

However, because Puerto Rico is part of the United States, residents there (even if you retired there after living in New York your entire life) fall under the rules for Puerto Rico.

So, you can live in Mexico as a US Citizen, permanently, and retain voting rights in your last state... Or you can live in Puerto Rico and lose the ability to vote for president.

[–] mitchty@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fair should have said Puerto Ricans.

[–] wolfpack86@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

US Citizens that reside in Puerto Rico.

[–] mitchty@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

Sure just better to say Americans that haven’t resided in a state in the past then. Or more simply Puerto Ricans but at some point I feel like we’re just language lawyering here.