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Democrats aren't attacking Jill Stein because they think she is taking votes from Kamala Harris. No one I know who's voting Green would consider a vote for Harris at this point. They're attacking Jill Stein because they don't want voters to know that there can be a worker-centered party to the left of the Democrats that supports popular policies like Medicare for All, a $25 wage and federally guaranteed housing.

There are 80+ million eligible voters who don't vote at all because they don't see the point. Democrats are okay with this, in fact, they don't want any candidate to their left to appeal to those voters with popular policies.

The fact that the Green Party exists shows that the Democrats aren't pushing the most progressive policies. Jill Stein's candidacy shows that it's possible to support reproductive justice AND be against funding and arming a genocide. That we can end homelessness if we stopped funding endless wars around the globe.

Democrats don't want anyone to the left of them to exist because it's the only way they can convince Americans that Dem policies are "the best that we can do". To Dems, anything else is just "asking for a pony".

Don't fall for it. Despite Dem's desire to have you think otherwise, things don't have to be this way.

Another world is possible.

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[–] Rob200@lemmings.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

A socialist party would be nice in u.s politics.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

There's a few running, that the democrats tried and failed to kick off the ballot in many states. Party for Socialism and Liberation is one.

The US greens are also an eco-socialist party. Ajamu Baraka is a great anti-imperialist / communist writer, and he was the green party's VP pick last time.

[–] Rob200@lemmings.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

I heard of greens, but as a party I hadn't actually seen them or any of the others covered much. Usually you just hear about Republicans and democrats. Might just be censorship and lack of exposure in the u.s.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If they would actually do the work at the local level to get candidates elected in towns, counties, and states, then they might even be viable at a national level at some point. But if they won't put in the effort locally, then all they're doing is fucking over the rest of the country when they run nationally.

[–] dontgooglefinderscult@lemmings.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Congrats you described the green party with nearly 200 elected officials across the US.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh, wow, nearly 200 elected officials out of 519,000 elected positions, that's, like, .04%. (Actually, slightly less.) How many of them are state-level legislators?

They need to do MUCH better before they start trying to field national level candidates.

[–] dontgooglefinderscult@lemmings.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They can do both. Publicity is 90% of running for office, and stein running at the national level helps down ballot greens.

Also that's more than all I ther third parties combined.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It.. Really does not. Stein is def. hurting Greens more than helping. Everyone that actually pays attention to politics and policy closely can see exactly what's going on, and can see that Stein is working for Trump and Putin; that's at odds with what the party claims to stand for.

[–] dontgooglefinderscult@lemmings.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No one with any attention on politics thinks Stein is helping either putin or Trump, despite the DNCs best propagandists shouting it night and day for a decade.

No, the independently wealthy medical doctor isn't selling out for a few hundred bucks from an organization that was refunded as soon as it became obvious it was Russian backed. Quite frankly I think most of the attacks on Dr. Stein are pure cope for the fact she's by far the most educated presidential candidate in history, and one of the most consistent as well.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee -3 points 2 weeks ago

"The most educated presidential candidate in history"...? Really? Are you forgetting Ben Carson then? Or is she the 'most educated' because of her undergrad work? (Oh, wait, almost everyone does undergrad work before they go to medical school.) Did you forget that Bill Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar? Or that Barack Obama was a law professor as well as being a civil rights attorney and specializing in constitutional law?

Given that Stein's own campaign has said they can't win, but that they can prevent Harris from winning, it's pretty clear that she knows exactly what she's doing. The only 3rd party candidate that has had a snowball's chance in hell of winning in the last 75 years has been H. Ross Perot.