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Why do cell phones have a data limit but home internet doesn't? I understand bandwidth limits, but how can home internet get away with giving users all the data they can use, but cell phone providers can't?

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[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 21 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Home Internet usually doesn't have unlimited internet. There's usually caps baked in somewhere. Don't believe me? Read the fine print. At some point, at some bandwidth usage in the monthly cycle, they will throttle the living crap out of your connection. It's written into pretty much every contract I've ever signed, and I've been with over a dozen carriers of landline internet over the years.

The reason being that they don't want you serving websites or business class functionality with residential level internet. They didn't build their network with those constraints. They want you paying for and using the business internet package, which has dedicated bandwidth and no caps because you're paying for a dedicated line to be run.

For mobile phones? Old pricing models still trying to be relevant. There's no technical reason.

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 14 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Home internet has unlimited internet

It's not 2002

Well, maybe not in that....one.... country

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Are you sure?

There's "hard" caps, and there's "soft" caps. When you hit the soft caps with many of these ISP's, they start throttling your internet usage by a substantial amount.

Relevant Screenshot of caps as of Sept 2024.

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I said "home internet hasn't had data caps for a couple of decades, well except maybe in that one country where people have no consumer rights and everyone gets fucked up the arse for money just for existing". I'm paraphrasing here.

You said - "Oh yeah, let me prove you right!"

I'm not sure where you're going with this

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok, I missed the sarcasm and allusion to the US as the country you were talking about. That's fair.

I assumed the OP was asking the question for the US. Which of course, is the thing people in my country do. Assume everything is about us ;)

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Weird how 97% of people don't think that eh? 😂

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Closer to 96/95% now ;) But yeah, your point stands. What's even worse about this, is I'm working on a dual citizenship with Portugal, so I should have had more self-awareness than I showed ;)

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

Good luck! Everyone deserves unlimited internet and consumer rights!

[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 5 points 4 weeks ago

I can only speak from a UK perspective, but most home ADSL/VDSL/Fibre providers don't have limits, other than "if your usage is tanking the network, we'll ask you to knock it off" type clauses.

Most providers are also signed up to an agreement that if your speed drops 50% below the agreed speed on the package on average, they'll either give you refunds, or let you out of the contract.

The only ones that throttle are the bargain basement operators aimed at people who don't care, and one otherwise very competent provider that for some unexplainable reason only gives 1TB by default, charging an extra £10 for 10TB.

And I guess there is also a pricing step up to guaranteed bandwidth. For business use, they tend to be things like 1gbits headline, 500mbit guaranteed burst, 100mbit guaranteed sustained.

[–] poke@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 weeks ago

I am in the US and I do not have a hard cap, and I regularly go WELL above the soft cap listed for my ISP in that image with no throttling.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

I've read the contract of my internet provider. No limit

Then again, I don't live in the US

[–] TastyWheat@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Same, no limit. Not American.