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As human rights groups continue to call out war crimes committed by the Israeli military, we speak to the only U.S. diplomat to publicly resign from the Biden administration over its policy on Israel.

We first spoke to Hala Rharrit when she resigned from the State Department in April, citing the illegal and deceptive nature of U.S. policy in the Middle East. “We continue to willfully violate laws so that we surge U.S. military assistance to Israel,” she says after more than a year of Israel’s war on Gaza.

Rharrit says she found the Biden administration unmovable in its “counterproductive policy,” which she believes has gravely harmed U.S. interests in the Middle East. “We are going to feel the repercussions of that for years, decades, generations.”

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[–] Eximius@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Reality doesn't care about what "jives" for you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_bombing_of_the_Gaza_Strip

The most perspective-enlightening comparison is probably "By late April 2024 it was estimated that Israel had dropped over 70,000 tons of bombs over Gaza, surpassing the bombing of Dresden, Hamburg, and London combined during World War II.[4][5]".

If that doesn't fit your carpet bombing definition, I give up.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The normal definition of carpet bombing is dropping a 'carpet' of bombs over an area all at once. That's where the name comes from, anyway.

If you're just saying they dropped a lot of bombs, why would you want to call that 'carpet bombing' ?

[–] DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"they dropped a whole bunch of bombs, yes, but nowhere did it say they dropped them all simultaneously. if the word 'carpet' doesnt fit, you must acquit israel of genocide"

-nonailsleft, exact quote rn

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why would you need to lie about them carpet bombing civilians as proof for genocide if you're convinced that's the case without it?

[–] DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

do you actually think the potential misapplication of the word carpet is the thing that makes it a genocide or not? let me help you with that

the proof is in the genocidal language and intent, the mass starvation, the indiscriminate targeting of civilians and infrastructure, the manipulation of journalism, the unhesitating violation of human rights and international law. its a genocide because of the systematic erasure of a people, a culture. 'carpet' is very obviously used in a figurative sense to describe "a lot, like in world war two" above, not the technical sense your strictly literal pedantic argument would require to have any pretense of validity. "lie about carpet bombing"

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Carpet bombing in WW2 wasn't called that because they dropped a large number of single bombs over a country over a large period, it was called that because it's a technique where you try to cover an area with a dense carpet of bombs all at once

[–] DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I refer to the entirety of my previous comment, and especially my comment before that which mocked you for this.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think you could write 100 comments but none of them would support your claim that Israel is carpet bombing civilians

[–] DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I refer to two comments ago in which I explained how neither I nor the person who originally used the word 'carpet' were claiming that israel was "carpet" bombing civilians, try actually reading the 2nd half of the 2nd paragraph of that comment. This subject is a red herring and a very very stupid waste of my time. Further attempts to engage on the subject will be taken as evidence of bad faith on your part.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

neither I nor the person who originally used the word 'carpet' were claiming that israel was "carpet" bombing civilians

They literally are carpet bombing civillians

[–] DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

do you actually think the potential misapplication of the word carpet is the thing that makes it a genocide or not? let me help you with that

‘carpet’ is very obviously used in a figurative sense to describe “a lot, like in world war two” above, not the technical sense your strictly literal pedantic argument would require to have any pretense of validity.

the person obviously does not know that "carpet" bombing means anything other than "a lot, like in world war 2". this pedantic bullshit you're trying to pull does not fly, nor does it argue against the fact of genocide if true. i have already answered literally all of this before. it is a red herring, you are not arguing in good faith, and i am now blocking you, you disingenuous troll.