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[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 341 points 3 weeks ago (87 children)

"Ok, lots of Russian trolls out and about.

It's entirely clear why the change was done, it's not getting reverted, and using multiple random anonymous accounts to try to "grass root" it by Russian troll factories isn't going to change anything.

And FYI for the actual innocent bystanders who aren't troll farm accounts - the "various compliance requirements" are not just a US thing.

If you haven't heard of Russian sanctions yet, you should try to read the news some day. And by "news", I don't mean Russian state-sponsored spam.

As to sending me a revert patch - please use whatever mush you call brains. I'm Finnish. Did you think I'd be supporting Russian aggression? Apparently it's not just lack of real news, it's lack of history knowledge too."

fuck yes. fuck russia. fuck russians.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 197 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m Finnish. Did you think I’d be supporting Russian aggression? Apparently it’s not just lack of real news, it’s lack of history knowledge too."

Man, it's like you spend centuries brutalizing all your neighbors, if not outright conquering them and enforcing holocausts, and this is the thanks you get!

Putin:

Russian culture is so underappreciated 🥺

No, it is appreciated. Just not in the way you want it to be.

[–] mizuki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

fuck russians? fuck the Russian government and the people who support it, not all the russians.

[–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"fuck the overwhelming majority of russians" doesn't have the same ring to it.

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I have no problem with Russians, but I do have a problem with the Russian government, and that makes me suspect Russians due to the chance of the Russian government using its leverage to get them to do what they want. So I understand the move, but I'm saddened that FOSS gets sucked into international politics.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

FOSS is inherently political, though, and an international collaboration like Linux is inherently internationally political. Allowing big corporations to influence the direction of the codebase? That's political. Allowing the free usage and distribution of the software to anybody for any purpose not otherwise afforded by existing copyright law? That's political. Collaborating with contributors from almost every country on Earth? That's political. Being headquartered in the United States? Again political. Creating a hierarchy with Linus Torvalds at the top? The definition of politics.

It feels like people only start screaming "that's politics though!" whenever it becomes political in a way that's controversial to them – without recognizing how completely pervasive politics are in every single aspect of our lives. The fact we're even talking on Lemmy right now is political – in all likelihood, we both decided that Reddit's system of governance was unfair and thought a federated system was somehow more ideal, in this case a platform created by outspoken authcoms. That's even disregarding the Internet which Lemmy sits on top of, including net neutrality, freedom of speech, the infrastructure connecting different jurisdictions, the way it came about through organizations like DARPA, CERN, the IEEE, and ICANN, etc.

[–] GeneralInterest@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It seems though that Linus didn't make this decision for political reasons, but instead because he doesn't want to get in trouble with the US government. He indicated that he was advised by lawyers to do this:

I'm not going to go into the details that I - and other maintainers - were told by lawyers.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

but instead because he doesn't want to get in trouble with the US government

I agree that that's why he made the decision, but you understand how that's political, right?

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