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[–] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What definition are you going by?

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Adam Smith's. He pioneered rational choice models in general. Came up with the whole shebang that 20yold econ 101 students love to ignore in favour of "free market is if I get a fat payout".

[–] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And why should I listen to someone that defines a word differently than everyone else?

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Adam Smith came up with it. It's also how actual economists use it. Don't confuse that with how business majors, politicians, and generally peddlers of institutionalised market failure use it.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can you point to a few examples of economists using it? Obviously I won't count Lemmy users.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

In the hardcore contemporary literature you mostly see more precise language such as perfect competition, (theoretical) situations which are pareto-optimal, which is built on Adam's rational choice models. The maths became more solid, the idea didn't change. They didn't have game theory back then.

And FFS read The Wealth of Nations and see what he thought of monopolists he'd consider our billionaires to be no different than the kings of old. The father of capitalism was out for universal wealth and happiness, not personal enrichment.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You honestly seem obsessed with that adam dude.

I think your problem is that you seem to think that "perfect" mathematical models will ever work in real life.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think your problem is that you seem to think that “perfect” mathematical models will ever work in real life.

I said the exact opposite the whole thread. Are you confusing me with a capitalist or something.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's all you talk about though.

No one cares about Adam when his ideas are frankly stupid. Or at least how you describe them. He might be a solid dude.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

It's all you fucking asked about.