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[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Support ranked choice voting, and strategic voting becomes a thing of the past, allowing for greater variety of political representation.

[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

Agreed. First-past-the-post voting system has to go.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Except Ranked Choice doesn't actually fix anything, and in fact can make things worse.

RCV is the only voting system designed that fails the monotonicity criterion.

What that means is that ranking a candidate higher on your ballot can cause them to lose.

Which is insane, and a deal breaker, and not the only massive flaw with the system.

A lot of it stems from the fact that RCV is, at its core, a series of First Past the Post elections on a single ballot.

You cannot fix the problems with First Past the Post by just iterating First Past the Post.

No, the only way to actually fix things is to ditch Ordinal voting in favor of Cardinal voting.

www.equal.vote is a good source for more in depth analysis of actual fixes.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know that I'd heard that issue with ranked choice voting before, I have some reading to do.

Thanks for sharing your perspective, I appreciate it

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yup, there's a reason why RCV initiatives are being repealed faster than they're being adopted.

RCV produces worse results than First Past the Post.

Which is a massive problem for voting reform, because people will say "we tried that, and it made things worse" while thinking about RCV. It poisons the well, and makes real voting reform much harder.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you have any links to coverage of RCV being repealed faster than they're being adopted? If not that's fine :) at some point I'm gonna sit down and read/research, I just don't have the emotional bandwidth today

[–] basmati@lemmus.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

So vote green or PSL. Got it.