this post was submitted on 21 Oct 2024
350 points (97.6% liked)

politics

19089 readers
5468 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I've been saying this for a while, but I believe it will be a large margin win for Harris and the democrats. I don't believe a large portion of Republicans will actually go to the polls this year. They won't bring themselves to go show up to the polls. The dems can push this hard and I believe more seats than the dnc are expecting will end up flipping to them.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah. I honestly don't know.

Firstly, fucking vote. Don't get complacent no matter what. Make a plan of how to get to your booth on the big day. A lot of media between now and then will try to make you feel like you don't need to bother.

That said, having consumed a lot of commentary about this, from organisations I think are reasonably balanced, I just have no idea what to expect.

After the big day, it could be an outright shooting civil war, or Kamala could win in a landslide because republicans are too ashamed to vote, or Trump could claim victory and just get away with it. In any of those starkly different outcomes I'd think "well this was a really predictable outcome"

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It all comes down to swing states. If it were popular vote then Harris would win in a landslide.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, that will decide whether Harris wins from a legitimate perspective, but Trump just isn't going to concede no matter what happens.

They've been wargaming how to foment uncertainty, and if they can find a way to do so in a state which is not a swing state they will do so.

It's very clear that if Trump does not win legitimately, he's going to try to steal victory illigitimately, through manipulation of corrupt officials, through legal proceedings in friendly courts, and through civil unrest if need be. It's exactly what he did in 2020, but with no preparation. This time round they've had 4 years to prep.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I think its more the GOP and its posse of billionaires have been running the election theft playbook for four years. Trump never has plans, the people who are running things for him do..

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 20 points 3 weeks ago

I hope you're right. Let's make it so!

[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

I don't know, I saw a lot of Trump supporters when I voted today.

I hope you're right and we can get a big blue victory, but Republicans have always been consistent voters.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

She needs to win the swing states, not just win the popular vote. And that's seems like a coin toss.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's where I disagree. It will be a clear victory. I was worried he'd win 2016. I was worried he'd win 2020. I'm confident he'll lose 2024.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So, you got some numbers for next weeks lottery please?

I mean maybe he'll lose, but who thought he'd win 2016? So maybe not!

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago

I though he could win 2016. When going for the first female president, you don't want to put forward someone that so much of the country dislikes as a person. The only reason we have a trump anything is because the DNC rammed Hillary down our throats.