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[–] Don_Dickle@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Thank you for the write up and I say this not against you but that is a pretty fucked up mindset.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

International trade is complicated. I say US here but almost everyone put tarrifs on Chinese EVs. Germany's economy for example heavily relies on the auto industry, and a collapse could mean a lot of problems.

You also don't want a monopoly. If China are the only one's selling cars, it won't be long before they are no longer cheap. We speak of cars but it's the same for food. You don't want a foreign country to have an economic handle on your food.

It's also worth noting that these other products are often cheaper because the people making them have a lower quality of life. We don't want to end up in a race to the bottom.

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not at all. It's necessary to protect your own industry.

If Canada didn't impose tariffs on US dairy, Canadian dairy farmers couldn't afford to compete against US subsidized Dairy. And it's quite important for a nation to maintain its own food production.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not at all. It's necessary to protect your own industry.

But mostly the tariffs are there to protect the capitalist class. When globalism hurts workers and offshores our jobs our politicians do nothing, but when profits are threatened they act swiftly.

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

No. Mostly they're put in place to protect the domestic industry from being run out of business from cheap exports.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Subsidies of local produced goods would work just a well, and not increase process to consumers as much.

[–] JakenVeina@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

A country putting tariffs on imports doesn't necessarily mean it's being anti-competitive, or anything nefarious.

In this example, the argument generally goes that China's EV market is so cheap, compared to the US's, because the Chinese government subsidizes it, I.E. gives EV makers free money so they can lower costs or expand infrastructure, which in turn leads to lower prices. Thus, a US tarrif is just attempting to re-level the playing field. How much truth there is to this, I don't really know.

And this, in TURN, doesn't necessarily mean that China is being anti-competitive either. There's nothing wrong with them saying "Having a robust EV infrastructure is good for our country, and we think it's going to be very important for our future, so we're going to invest heavily into that."

What happens when a Chinese person immigrates to the US and wants to bring their car with them?