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Kubuntu 24.10 Released, KDE Snaps at 24.08.2, and I lived to tell you about it! - Scarlett Gately Moore
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this post was submitted on 14 Oct 2024
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Holy fuck. I hope KDE snaps aren't going to be mandatory. I just reinstalled Kubuntu to erase Windows from my PC and I've had quite a hard time working around snaps.
I regret not installing Debian as I said I would but changed my mind last minute thinking it wouldn't be so bad...
You can as of yet still disable Snaps entirely on *buntu and enable Flatpak instead. I doubt you'll be getting them as regular .deb packages for long still though...
Sure. But when packages become exclusively available as Snaps, that's just asking for users to dump the distro for something else.
Why would we need to turn KDE packages into Snaps????? That'll slow down the whole startup process because Snaps are stored compressed and will need to be decompressed before launch. And why have your whole DE in a sandbox????? That doesn't make any sense to me. Unless they're talking about only the applications. But even then that's too much.
But KDE never will be exculsively available as snaps. Again, you can just install Flatpak and get them from there. Or get Debian and stick to .deb, it's largely the same base as Ubuntu anyway.
@PureTryOut @cyborganism just found out, that it was a good decision to move to debian.
Already hated it that I regularily lost my firefox profile because of this snap stuff...
Absolutely. I can get around some Snaps right now with Kubuntu 24.04 but I don't know how long I'll be able to with the next versions.
I regret not installing Debian, which was my 2nd choice. I've just been a loyal *Ubuntu user for 20 years so I thought I'd give it one last chance and because I've gotten pretty comfortable with it.
Next time I'll install Debian testing as a rolling distro. I think it's stable enough and even more stable than most Arch flavors or even OpenSuse Tumbleweed. With a solid snapshot strategy it should be safe enough.
@cyborganism Same. Also sticked long to Kubuntu.
However, they lost me.
Tried Debian testing. But wasnt really stable. Lost some packages during update. So switched to stable and I'm fine with it.
There's not that much software I need in latest version.
KDE won't provide them exclusively as Snaps. But *Ubuntu might. It seems to be the aim with Kubuntu from what I understand. (Correct me if I'm mistaken.)
Canonical might only care about Snaps, but like I keep saying you can just enable Flatpak and get it from there. Only if you want debs you'll have to move away.
That's not the point.
The point is that sometimes the sandboxing can break certain features in certain software. And if the software is only available as a snap or even flatpak, but not the original deb or rpm, then you're stuck with a broken software.
This was the case, for example, for my browsers and some of their extensions that need to communicate with external tools like media downloaders or even password vault access, like keepass.