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[–] Mambert@beehaw.org 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

A federal prosecutor has always dedicated her career to building "internment camps" but a literal coup that led to several deaths was "soft"?

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I can't tell which you're trying to do, apologize for maga chuds or kamala's abuse of black people and immigrants.

[–] Mambert@beehaw.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

That's right where I want to be. So on the fence you frustratingly want me to just pick any side.

But for your own sanity sake, I prefer to side with society freedoms. I'm too young and broke to care about tax brackets or inflation rate.

[–] SinAdjetivos@beehaw.org 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Several deaths:

six people died: one was shot by Capitol Police, another died of a drug overdose, three died of natural causes, and a police officer died after being assaulted by rioters.

I'll admit it may technically be a mischaracterization, but I don't think you understand the level of violence that is typical of "hard" coups.

[–] Mambert@beehaw.org 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I just disagree with softening the word by adding "soft" at the beginning. A soft coup is a coup. Date rape is still rape, candy-corn-murder is still murder. No need to add prefixes to try and categorize them, and artificially make some sort of hierarchy.

By naming it any less than a coup, and holding all coups to the same standard, it's an attempt to soften it, and I am against that.

[–] SinAdjetivos@beehaw.org 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not a hierarchy per se so much as different categories/distinctions which I do think is useful. A serial killer is different than a hitman which is different than a soldier. I agree they are all functionally the same but they serve different purposes and have different characteristics which are important to keep in mind when talking about them.

That being said you've changed my mind on calling it a "soft" coup as it doesn't really accurately describe the differences I was trying to convey. "Incompetent, halfhearted, and poorly planned autocoup" would be more accurate but it's a mouthful and I don't know if that's the most useful distinction either.

Either case thanks for the pushback!

[–] Mambert@beehaw.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

I definitely agree we have different names for different scenarios!

When a rich person is murdered, they're assassinated

When a religious figure does a magic trick, it's a miracle etc