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When Gmail first appeared in 2004, the idea of having what seemed like a never-ending space for email was revolutionary. Most paid services were providing a few megabytes of space, and here came Google promising a full gigabyte (which, at the time, seemed huge) for free.

Over the years, however, Gmail has added a plethora of features that it touts as “improvements” but some of them are irritating. Worse, it looks for ads for things that it will never need and sticks them at the top of email list.

Back in the dark ages before Gmail, Yahoo Mail, and other free cloud-based apps, most email happened either via paid services or inside of walled gardens. In the former, you paid a service provider for an email account and downloaded your email into an app that only lived on your computer — an app with a name like Pine, Eudora, Pegasus Mail, or Thunderbird.

For the most part, nobody was scanning your email to find out the last time you bought shoes, or whether you were shopping for car insurance, or that you had recently been buying gifts for a relative’s new baby. Nobody was taking that information and selling it to vendors so they could drop ads into your email lists or surprise you with additional promotional messages. Your email lived on your computer alone. Once it was downloaded and erased from the server, it was just yours — to save or erase or lose.

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[–] sodalite@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Something bugs me about Proton. I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop on that one. It feels like a honeypot or something. Like - I question if it's going to be around in 10 years. I don't know what gives me that feeling about them, but I've resisted moving over to them completely.

[–] lastweakness@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

They've been around for 10 already. They will be around longer too, given that they're profitable, which they've continued to be. They also aren't under any legal pressure because they've complied with government requests, just with limited data because that's all the data they store. Their client software, which is where the encryption happens, is all audited and open sourced. Any reason to distrust them would really be baseless right now. At the very least, they are definitely better than Google when it comes to trust...

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think they're a honeypot, but they do seem like posers. Privacy is just good for marketing now.

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

They've been focused on privacy for 10 years, before it was nearly as marketable.

[–] barkdoor@infosec.pub 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No, because Signal is open source and I've seen a lot of government agencies complain about it. It's auditable.

Edit: I was unaware that the proton apps are open source.