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You only need to sign up for one instance. What app are you using or is it the browser?
I use Liftoff for at least Lemmy World. I used the browser to sign up for each individual instance and get approved because Liftoff only recognizes Lemmy World.
You can just search for something like Android and it'll show all the communities including the instance it's on and join; you don't need multiple logins.
The app I use, wefwef, also can view all communities in the feed along with your subscribed or just local instance communities. I'd assume liftoff is similar but I've never used it.
I didn't know that there was more than one Lemmy World app.
The plataform is Lemmy, lemmy.world is a server, there are apps for the entire plataform not only one server. That means than you can use any app to connect to lemmy.world, lemmy.ml, beehaw.org and so on
Exactly what gatob said. Lemmy is the platform that all instances (Lemmy.world, lemmy.ml, etc) connect to.
All apps work with all instances. There's jerboa, connect, wefwef (soon renamed to voyager thank god), liftoff, with more coming soon (boost & sync of reddit fame)
Liftoff works with multiple servers. Go to account, gear in the top right, accounts, menu in bottom right, add server.
I will try that later. I have to go back and see which ones I signed up to.
You don't need to use loads. You can access all communities across all servers just using your single lemmy.world account (except beehaw)
Loads?
Oh.
Lemmy.world is just the (only) pre-configured Lemmy instance. But you can add more yourself, e. g. your home instance where your main account lives.
You can add more instances, but don't have need to sign up on each. Now the cool thing, that makes LiftOff special. You can switch to one of those instances and browse them to view only their local communities or all that are available on that instance. You don't need an account for this, but you can't vote or reply directly. However, Liftoff offers to switch to the copy of the same post/comment you're viewing, that lives on your home instance, where you're signed up, so you can vote or reply.
You could (but don't have to) sign up on these other instances. Usually you pick an instance you like most to sign up, then browse the copies (= federation) of other instances that are on your home instances.
But LiftOff allows you to easily browse other instances directly (no copies), like some travel mode. Sign up on these other instances and you have a holiday home there. By this you can e. g. keep your personas separate from each other.
The switch feature is also very handy if you simply want to browse an instance that's defederated (= no copies of posts/comments are shared) from your home instance.
It would be so nice if this were true.
You need to sign up with every instance that isn't federated with an instance you've already signed up for.
So, for example, if you have a Lemmy.world account, and you want to subscribe and post to a community hosted by beehaw.org, you also need to create and maintain a beehaw.org account.
As the fediverse gets more mature, news of de-federation between big/popular instances becomes more common.
That's beehaw's problem. They defederated with lemmy.world recently
Your statement may be true but that does not make it helpful
I doubt it was meant to be helpful. It’s just the reality. Just as a lot of people left Reddit for specific reasons. The same will probably apply to different instances choosing to block off large chunks of the fediverse.
Most posts and subscriptions to lemmy.ml don't work from lemmy.world as well, in my experience. To clarify - they work, but no one at lemmy.ml sees your posts, and the subscriptions all permanently say 'Subscribe Pending'.
Why? Doesn't that undermine the whole strength of the Fediverse?
Not really. If the admins of that instance don't want to federated, that's their prerogative. They'll gain or lose users based on that decision. The beauty of the fediverse is that it's all on a voluntary basis. If beehaw decides to federate with a small cluster of other instances, then they'll have their own niche just like the current internet.
If there's content at beehaw that a user wants to subscribe to and comment on, then it's more than just beehaw's problem, it's also makes it the user's problem...and that means creating and maintaining logins on multiple servers.
But that's no different than the current internet. Like I said, it's beehaw's problem. If they want to strictly enforce native users on their instance and have their stricter account creation process to join their community, then that's no different than the current internet.
And depending on the app you use, adding and switching to multiple accounts can be easy. I use Memmy which emulates Apollo’s account switcher.
I don't need to sign up with every instance that isn't federated with my home instance. I only need to sign up on one of those instances if they have a community I want to follow and participate in.
While true, it sounds like communities from instances that un-federate should be avoided. More users are on other instances so the beehaw ones should be left to die in obscurity