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I don't think it's alive, I think it's talking to its self. They're making a Chinese whisper machine, and it will remain so until it has embodiment, subjective and changing goals, and a will of it's own.
That's part of intelligence, but it's still a reverse engineering take on things.
In actuality we have intelligence because our threat detection and social protection/survival goals became abstract enough for self-awareness to occur.
EDIT: Telephone game is what I meant.
Complete tangent but outside of the commonwealth, this game is referred to by the much less racist moniker “telephone”
I figured he was talking about Searle's Chinese room thought experiment. Searle sucks though, so that's probably also racist (in addition to being stupid.)
In 2024 it is, at the very least, extremely uncomfortable to read Searle describe Chinese writing as "meaningless scribbles", "formal symbols"*, "squiggle squiggle", and "squoggle squoggle". Basically taking Chinese, ignoring the fact that it's a real language used by real people and is not alien nor inscrutable nor mathematical, and using it as a prop to purposefully obfuscate a thought experiment.
But that's like, just my opinion man.
* The paper never seems to get around to calling English letters symbols I wonder why.