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[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Judaism tries to disincentive people to convert while Islam and Christianity both try/have tried very hard to convert people, often at the tip of the sword.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is the disincentive effort a filter? To weed out those who are not fully committed?

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Until you realise that they do the same shitty conversion tactics as Christians, just to those who are ethnically but not religiously Jewish.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 0 points 1 month ago

I was considering it only from the... I suppose... Intellectual viewpoint perhaps?

Here are all the reasons you shouldn't want to join our club.

And also, from a very naïve viewpoint too. The subtleties of an ethnic religion are an entirely foreign idea to me.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Okay just to make something clear: While Muslim rule spread by force, getting told "comvert or die" was generally a very rare occurrence. Better living conditions for non-Muslims were a thing depending on the time and place, but even then the Islamization of the modern Muslim world outside Arabia was a very gradual process that took, for example, four hundred years in Egypt of one-sided cultural osmosis. Admittedly there was some foul play involved at some points, but almost nobody was converted at the tip of a sword.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Convert, pay up an extortionate tax and/or become a slave, or die, is forced conversion.

[–] anas@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

pay up an extortionate tax

Jizya is less than the Zakat, the equivalent tax for Muslims.