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[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 126 points 1 month ago (5 children)

People will say "what about Gaza?" when it comes to Kamala. It blows my fucking mind that they think Trump or some fake third party vote will do anything.

Trump cares about Trump and how much you will suck him off.

This election is between two selections. Trump and Harris..Full Stop!

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 62 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Most of those people are either secret Trump supporters, have foreign interests, or are so brainwashed that arguing with them is pointless. They only use Gaza as a tool, if they actually cared they'd vote for the only candidate who can be swayed on the issue

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Let's take this through to worse case for both sides.

Harris doesn't intervene in a foreign conflict.

Trump becomes Emperor of USA (would that even be their name), women are slaves, anyone not white and male is threatened with violence, democracy dies, USA become an authoritarian, racist, violent oligarchy, the world burns through climate change and conflict.... and Trump doesn't intervene in the same conflict.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

...and Trump doesn't intervene in the same conflict.

Or intervenes more... to help the genocide proceed faster.

BTW, he'd also hand Ukraine to Russia so that's another genocide right there.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Telling racist lies that Haitian people are eating pet cats is a Blood Libel prelude to domestic pogroms.

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And Taiwan to China. What will happen with Phillipines?

That's actually one of the few I think the turdsicle won't do. He has it in his head that China is oooooh the enemy! Maybe they refuse to bribe him with some kind words like papa putin did.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Trump will definitely intervene and bomb the shit out of Gaza, Lebanon, and Iran. This is the guy who took the most insane extreme option and killed that Iranian general.

[–] chaonaut@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm not sure how "tens of billions of dollars of military aid" counts as not intervening in a foreign conflict.

It is a bit galling to be told endlessly that we must shut up and choose when the choice is "genocide or more genocide", even when the reason Harris is on the top of the ballot at all is as a result of speaking up about the issues with Biden. I'm not all that comfortable merely accepting that, to escape the chopping block myself, I must remain silent about my family members. I'm sorry that Harris is so tied to Israel's expansionist agenda that my inability to stomach rampant slaughter is threatening her and the Democratic party's chances against Trump and the Republican party, but I can't let some tens of thousands of killing go.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He also will let Israel go 10x harder on Gaza. Made up issue by Russian troll farms

[–] MouseKeyboard@ttrpg.network 6 points 1 month ago

For anyone thinking of refusing to vote for Harris over Gaza: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_peace_plan

It's the same playbook every time:

https://theconversation.com/i-investigated-millions-of-tweets-from-the-kremlins-troll-factory-and-discovered-classic-propaganda-techniques-reimagined-for-the-social-media-age-237712

It's a propaganda technique using repetition to foster familiarity, to simulate that there is a large-ish part of the population that thinks that way.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago