The first-past-the-post voting system sucks; the resulting two-party system sucks; but right now we have to operate within it. The mathematics of that system entail the simple fact that if you discourage people from keeping Trump out, you are helping get Trump in. That makes you a Trump supporter.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The first-past-the-post voting system sucks; the resulting two-party system sucks; but right now we have to operate within it

Only if you think voting is the extent of political action.

The mathematics of that system entail the simple fact that if you discourage people from keeping Trump out, you are helping get Trump in

And if you encourage getting Harris in, you are helping Harris get in, who has promised imperalism, genocide, World War 3, and failed Climate action.

That makes you a Trump supporter.

In 20 years you'll look back at yourself, if leftists have managed to prevent the end of the world, as someone who supported a fascist regime and refused to lift a finger against it. I hope you'll come to your senses much sooner than that.

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[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

“Both sides are just as bad!” is the bullshit that got us the George W. Bush administration and the Iraq War.

Yet Obama did nothing to hold Bush Jr and his administration accountable for their crimes

[–] Maeve@midwest.social 4 points 1 month ago

"we tortured some folks" what? That doesn't qualify as holding accountable? /s because it's sadly needed.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago

I am taking the moral route and telling you to abandon the genocidal empire, both parties are monstrous and we either need to vote them out or revolt.

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

“Both sides are just as bad!” is the bullshit

It's not that they are identical, it's that delineating between the Hitlerites and the Strasserites just isn't very meaningful compared to the understanding that they are wings of the same monstrous entity that needs to be destroyed. You don't even need to Obamas embracing Bush and saying "same values" to see that, but seeing that makes denial inexcusable.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Lemmy.ml mods go through arguments removing the ones that are too critical of leftwing voter suppression.

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

The first-past-the-post voting system sucks; the resulting two-party system sucks; but

The hand-wringing isn't the worst part, but it's definitely the most annoying. "Don't worry, I'm disavowing Harris while I vote for her in my non-swing-state, so it doesn't count even as she uses those votes to claim legitimacy just like Biden did".