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[–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 46 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

People need 3 things to commit suicide:

  • social isolation
  • sense of burden
  • capacity

Social Isolation

If the person feels alone, even if surrounded by people, they're meeting this criterion. Loneliness is social pain because being alone was guaranteed death back in the day. Being socially isolated is literally painful.

Sense of Burden

If the person feels that all they do is drag people down, then they may see that their existence is a drag. Match this sense of worthlessness and parasitic existence with the pain of loneliness, and the person in a dire hopeless situation. To them, there is no point to being alive. They're in constant inescapable pain and not only contribute nothing, but they are spreading that pain onto others...at least that's how they see it.

Capacity

This refers to the ability for someone to be able to kill themselves. Do they have the means? Pills, car, rope, firearm? Military people in general are at higher risk because they are more likely to have firearms. But one thing that I think is overlooked is that they've been trained at a brainwashing level that violent killing is the ultimate solution to problems.

Regardless, not having the capacity is a major protective factor, which is why people get isolated in settings that prevent them from killing themselves. I'd like to point out how fucked up this is though. We are taking a person that is in so much pain they want to die, and placing them in a physical environment that prevents them from that. While necessary as a last resort, it's torture.

What if when someone says their in pain, we believe them? Maybe we offer millions of other opportunities to turn their life around. And if they're not grabbing on to those opportunities, work with them to solve those barriers. Maybe placing blame on them solely increases their sense of burden.

If you're in pain, I believe you ♥️

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