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[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There is a vote for MORE or LESS of all of the above. It's not like your vote doesn't matter. Do you want more genocide, or less genocide? "No genocide" isn't an option. So do you want more genocide, or less genocide?

[–] SeanBrently@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

OK I want LESS.

I have been wanting less for a long time. Those things I want LESS of don't seem to be reduced by much since I became eligible to vote. Voting's not enough.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Awesome, vote Democrat.

Voting’s not enough.

Almost correct. There's just not enough voting. Having a razor thin Democrat majority doesn't net us any victories, it just prevents (most) catastrophe. You want progress, give us a 5-senator majority (enough to override the Manchins and Sinemas). You want major progress, give us 60 dems, to bypass the filiburster. Though, Democrats finally seem willing to end the filibuster rule, so at least we should see some progress on that front.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Which is which? Like, seriously. Put the recent headlines about Israel's actions against the other guy's vague, contradictory statements and demonstrated lack of deep interest in foreign affairs. It's not clear at all.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Put the recent headlines about Israel’s actions against the other guy’s vague, contradictory statements and demonstrated lack of deep interest in foreign affairs.

You're comparing Netanyahu to Trump? I don't understand.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For what it's worth, I'm comparing what's actually happening (genocide and the Middle East spiraling into war) with Democrats in office (tsk-tsking but providing material support to Netanyahu) to what history shows would likely happen with the other guy in office (hot air and bombast, but almost certainly not any greater material support).

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You know Trump has called for the extermination of all Palestinians, right? If you think Trump will be soft on Palestinians...well, you don't. You're lying. If you're saying Trump would (or even might) be easier on Palestinians than Biden or Harris, you're just straight up lying. There's no possible way to be ignorant enough to make an honest mistake there. It's a lie, and probably propaganda, because why else would you say it?

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

More directly relevant, many members of Netanyahu's government have also called for the extermination of all Palestinians, and they have the U.S. government providing political cover while they do it.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In-progress vs. potential? I dunno, seems pretty self-evident to me.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

But we're not voting for Netanyahu.