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[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 242 points 2 days ago (6 children)
[–] tonytins@pawb.social 14 points 2 days ago

Meta is a little hard because they acquired a lot of existing social networks in their prime and have kept things subtle. Think about how long it took EA to finally strip Maxis of everything but The Sims. The only way you would know something is owned by Meta is from the splash screen.

[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

Yep, agreed. The biggest problem there is that Meta is generally not making life worse for its users than they're used to. Facebook and Instagram are giving you almost the same shitty experience you got a decade ago.

[–] pumpkinseedoil@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Meta probably is the hardest one given that in many influencal countries WhatsApp is the app everyone uses for communication

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 4 points 2 days ago

It's also the main organization tool for "groups". I have tried to migrate mine to other platforms with no success.

And also the biggest online classifieds marketplace for trading goods. Even though it's a fucking awful experience and simply ignores any filters you give it. If you want to actually sell your stuff, or sell it for market value, without shipping, you just have to use it.

[–] puppy@lemmy.world 114 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Twitter and Reddit went so much to shit and lowered the bar so much that Meta actually became almost not bad in my eyes, almost.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 89 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Meta is still on a whole other level when it comes to data privacy.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Gee are you implying that storing passwords in plaintext is a bad thing? /s

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 38 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's security, not privacy.

[–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

That's security, not privacy.

helenslunch - the slayer of untruths

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How much privacy do you have when someone has your account password?

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 22 points 2 days ago

You have none, because your security has been compromised. This is a flaw. Poor privacy is intentional.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm still pissed off that I've never had a facebook. I never gave them any info about me. I gave them no reason to have a profile on me.

Yet because OTHER people have facebook, they know my name, my address, my phone number. I don't know if they can identify me in pictures that other people post, but it wouldn't surprise me.

That shouldn't be allowed. I did not consent.

[–] Broken@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

Correct. And the same is true for the mobile phones, carriers, and a slew of apps that all look at contacts. They know who you are and who your friends and family are.

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz -4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

I think Meta is doing a decent job with Instagram. I mean except for collecting all possible data and psychological profiling of users to serve them targeted ads, it's a decent enough platform. And the only one still allowing for engagement with your actual friends rather than exclusively professional content creators.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Even if you ignore all the ads and data-mining IG its still a shit experience.

  • You can't share any links, which does nothing but make it a worse experience, because people just use annoying workarounds.
  • All the buttons for user profiles, hashtags, and comments are impossibly small.
  • In the search function you can conveniently "flick" between posts so you don't have to line each one up perfectly on the screen, but this works nowhere else in the app for some reason.
  • They created what are essentially 2 completely isolated social media platforms (posts and stories) into the same app, which results in fragmentation of where people post and where you have to look find their posts.
  • Every time I try to scroll down, I scroll to the side instead.
  • Every time you open the app, it shows you a post, and then that post disappears 2 seconds later.
  • They abuse the DM system by cramming other notifications into it for tags and "broadcasts", presumably to force you to receive them after you've disabled all the other notifications.
  • Of course there's the flaw of not allowing text posts, which again does nothing except force people to post photos of text, which undermines the fundamental purpose of the platform.
  • Incessant "suggested" posts that I do not have and have never expressed interest in.
  • No scroll bar for video, so if there's something you missed or want to watch again, you have to watch to the end or start from the beginning.
  • Read receipts subject users to abuse. Any other platform you can disable them.
  • Standard image posts are hidden by the algorithm, so no point in even posting them anymore, which essentially makes it almost entirely a TikTok/Snapchat clone.
  • You click the play button on an image, thinking it's a video, but it's just a still image with annoying ass audio.
  • Auto-playing videos.
  • Stories just flip along without you doing anything, and trying to go back and see them again is a nightmare.

I could go on but I digress.

[–] aniki@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

WTF are you on about? no one likes instagram shorts and the feed is a jumbled mess of bullshit and advertisements. I deleted mine a long time ago and don't regret it for a second.

[–] darkkite@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

no one likes instagram shorts

it's "reels" i think tiktok recommends better videos, but IG has closed the gap in recent years.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

I mean except for collecting all possible data and psychological profiling of users to serve them targeted ads, it’s a decent enough platform.

It's not. Instagram is popular the way it is because "It’s going to be a lot harder to pull off massive protests" there.

I really don't understand how people use Instagram. I've tried, but it's about 45% ads, 10-15% posts by people I don't follow, it's not in chronological order (or any sense of order for that matter), and regardless of whether I was on there yesterday or 2 months ago, it'll show me about 40 posts before saying "You're all caught up from the past 3 days!" and then refuse to show me any more.

I guess this is why I'm here on Lemmy and went crawling back to Tumblr, one of the last vestiges of the old internet. At this point, I'd rather watch a platform die than become marketable to advertisers and shareholders.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

There's a guy in the world of pro wrestling named Jim Cornette that said a quote this reminds me of.

Cornette is known for holding grudges, and being hateful. He keeps a shitlist of people he hates.

Well in the 1980s he was working for a wrestling company, and hated one of his coworkers for a year. Then a new guy came in and was so much worse.

Then one day he says to the first guy "You know, you used to be at the top of my shit list, but with all these new fuckheads coming in, you managed to move down a few spots simply by not doing anything!"

[–] T156@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

They're doing a Bradbury, in a way, kind of like Tumblr and Steam. Everyone else is shooting themselves in the foot.

[–] funkyfarmington@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The problem is that FB is the "core forum" for tons of niche hobbies. Irts the only reason I still have a account. They successfully killed off the old php forums.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If you live in rural America sone information is only posted to Facebook, from private businesses to small county or town governments

[–] neblem@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Additionally FB Marketplace killed Craigslist, at least in my area (also US). Nextdoor somewhat is a counter but that has its own problems.