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Asheville NC and Western NC has been destroyed by hurricane Helene and flooding. People are saying the same boring tired things there and sharing the same misinformation.

This is just ordinary weather which happens all the time.

The only thing we can do is pray.

Climate change isn't real

This is dangerous to say things like this because it makes people believe that there's no climate change, and that is ordinary and expected when that's not even remotely true. It's leading people to ignorantly become complacent, not contact their government, and when disasters like hurricanes happen, they don't evacuate because they don't believe it'll be serious.

I started commenting on everything telling people that climate change is causing these issues and got the most unhinged glue-sniffer responses ever like

'this has always been like this' or 'liberal snowflake tears'

and the worst ones are always religious.

'we can't do anything to save our planet, you need to pray. Send your prayers'

God didn't create this issue? We are ruining our planet!

Example 1. We now have to surround hospital in Tampa Florida with a literal fucking wall just for ordinary storms

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTFSX8mRS/

@Kevin R. Sullivan:Hurricanes have nothing to do with climate change

Deranged comments like this are very dangerous and spread false misinformation

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[–] patatahooligan@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For anyone stumbling onto this who actually wants to be educated, the science has practically unanimously agreed that climate change is mainly caused by human activity. No expert is unaware of the cycles that temporarily affect climate. They are well studied, modeled, and found to pale in comparison to human-made climate change. You can find comparisons between human and natural drivers, with sources from expert organizations and scientific studies, here and here. Funnily enough, the NOAA, which this commenter used as a source for El Niño and La Niña below, also hosts this article which literally starts by linking to a page that points out how climate change is mostly caused by humans.

[–] endofline@lemmy.ca -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Turning egypt into desert wasn't caused by human factor, it was caused by change of earth axial rotation https://www.nature.com/scitable/knowledge/library/green-sahara-african-humid-periods-paced-by-82884405/ and it happened within less than 2-3 centuries. Far more drastic than what we see alleged by "human greenhouse gas emissions". It's all well documented that natural causes can be far more drastic than whatever we do on earth ( several degrees in global earth scale ). And no, climatology is not united around the greenhouse gas effect at least not about alleged scale. Cycles around 20k, 40k, 100k years are not unheard https://www.nature.com/scitable/knowledge/library/green-sahara-african-humid-periods-paced-by-82884405/