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[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

how are those significantly different?

Anti colonialism would be against colonialism as you said. Presumably to stop encroaching colonialism, to stop existing colonialism, or to gain independence.

decolonialism just seems like a really weird specific to use here since normally context would provide that. Also if we're talking about palestine, wouldn't israel be actively colonizing palestine, instead of having already colonized it? Like you can't just start making outposts in a region that you haven't already colonized. You can't just make settlements in a place that isn't already colonized.

They wouldn't be settlements/outposts if they weren't colonial by nature. Like surely it can't already be colonized if hamas exists. The end game of colonization is literally integration and assimilation. A decolonial struggle would be something like hawaii being brought back to the ownership and independence of the natives.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The settlements are colonial. Resistance against already existing settlements and settlers is decolonial. Preventing more settlements is anticolonial.

They're both relevant in the Palestinian context, I just focused on decolonisation because it recognizes the already existing colonization. I guess it probably should be anticolonial/decolonial to recognize both.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The settlements are colonial. Resistance against already existing settlements and settlers is decolonial. Preventing more settlements is anticolonial.

i mean i guess in that context it would be, but then wouldn't this be an anti/de colonial resistance? Since there are most definitely both going on.

They’re both relevant in the Palestinian context, I just focused on decolonisation because it recognizes the already existing colonization. I guess it probably should be anticolonial/decolonial to recognize both.

yeah this was pretty much my thinking.

I think if you wanted to recognize the colonial aspects it's probably better to just mention the outposts and settlements lol. Sometimes demonstrating a concept is more powerful than the concept itself.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I also consider the so-called state of Israel to be an example of colonization, because literally it took a bunch of European Jewish settlers to come down from Europe and drive out the indigenous population during the Nakba. It's not just the settlements and outposts.