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I saw some threads here about Telegram and piracy stuff being banned. So, as an experimental alternative, I created a public Signal group for piracy.

Maybe it'll be useful?

Before joining

Signal supports usernames and hiding telephone numbers. Here's a blog entry on how to do so. You might want to:

  • set a username
  • change your profile name (these are two separate things!)
  • hide your phone number
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[–] uiiiq@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They have published requests from the law enforcement and their responses to these requests. The only unencrypted data they have is the phone number, a date of sign up and a date of the last login. That is it, everything else is encrypted and they cannot access it whatsoever.

[–] liveinthisworld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (6 children)

The problem is, if you're in Europe, your phone number is associated with your identity

[–] ladfrombrad@lemdro.id 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

No you don't.

I can go to the corner shop/local garage right now, buy a SIM card for 99p and then buy a top-up voucher in cash to have a completely anonymous phone number.

Albeit is the UK in Europe again? 🙈

edit: where I would be worried if my privacy was on the line is I could also go to the local pawn shop / Cash Converters to ensure that SIM card isn't associated with an IMEI I've previously used and buy in cash a cheapo phone.

[–] blicante@moist.catsweat.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Same in a few other European countries. I'm doing it right now with a few SIMs. You can also go on holiday to another country, get a few temporary SIMs there for a few quid and fly back home with the "contraband". Really not hard.

[–] ladfrombrad@lemdro.id 3 points 1 month ago

Aye, I've seen this misconception before and suspect it's specific countries in the European continent where you have to register.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The last time I bought a SIM in the UK I was told specifically I could not buy it with cash.

[–] ladfrombrad@lemdro.id 2 points 1 month ago

I don't know if you're in the UK right now but I can tell you right now that I can go round the corner and buy a SIM card in cash plus a top-up voucher, from someone like this guy

https://www.coregroup.co.uk/assets/img/cards/independent-retail-sim-distribution.jpg

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

But, again, all they can prove is that you signed up to Signal and when you last signed in.

[–] uiiiq@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So what? The law enforcement knows you have an account and knows the sign up date and last login. That doesn’t affect your privacy whatsoever. Besides, Europe isn’t a monolith. You can absolutely buy and use a SIM card without disclosing your name in some countries.

[–] Emerald@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Exactly. Signal is private, not anonymous

[–] blicante@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 1 month ago

Sometimes, but that's it. Authorities and signal itself can only say "this number has account with us since $signupDate and used it last on $usageDate". Signal can't say "we know $number is talking to $otherNumber" nor can they say "$number is in $group talking to $users".

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I believe the same is true in the US.

[–] liveinthisworld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It is not. You do not show any ID to get a phone number

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You also don't need to show any ID for a business to meet "know-your-customer" regulations. Can you get a phone number without revealing your identity?

[–] liveinthisworld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Isn't the same true in the EU, then?

[–] liveinthisworld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Only if you don't have to show your ID to get a number

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] liveinthisworld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In countries where you MUST show your proof of identity to get a number, pray tell me what kind of OPSEC can you employ to not do that?

[–] blicante@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 1 month ago

Travel across the border where you can? Ask a friend abroad to send you a SIM card? Maybe even find a service to buy a SIM from?