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[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 46 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I personally think it is a very bad idea to “speed run development” of protocols.

Stalling the development of protocols for nearly a decade is bad, too.

They should talk and meet somewhere between “Just develop in production!” and “I personally dislike it for non-technical reasons, so I will block it for everyone!”

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The problem is that you could end up with protocols that certain desktops don't want to implement.

[–] chameleon@fedia.io 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That already happens constantly and I'd consider this the consequence of it, rather than the cause. You can only issue so many vetoes before people no longer want to deal with you and would rather move on.

The recent week of Wayland news (including the proposal from a few hours ago to restate NACK policies) is starting to feel like the final attempt to right things before a hard fork of Wayland. I've been following wayland-protocols/devel/etc from the outside for a year or two and the vibes have been trending that way for a while.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No one will use a fork of Wayland. That would be suicide. The Wayland project will continue no matter what other things people are working on. I can see a separate project forming but it strongly doubt it will have any traction.

If you recall back to the days of the yearly internet people said the same thing about TCP/IP

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

No one will use a fork of Wayland. That would be suicide.

Famous last words ...

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Wayland development is crazy. The features it needs to include are those that Mac OS and Windows support. The debate should be around implementation, not the necessity. I’m still on Xorg in 2024 because of idiosyncrasies in Wayland that I don’t want to deal with, particularly regarding HiDPI and screen sharing. I personally wish Wayland were developed by the Pipewire team. Maybe something would get done.