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I have seen at least 1 meme or other joke somewhere on the platform where one also mentioned a "twink" and where that word appeared to be the punchline somehow. I've scrolled through Urban Dictionary a bit (haha) and the meanings mentioned there are either literal, using burger as a metaphor for the kind of person who looks like they consume burgers regularly, as a random surrogate for things that are kind of round (haha) or even that aren't, or 1 Instance of fandom ship name for piece of media where the name of a character sounds like the word for onions in Japanese. That didn't really get me anywhere. Did I correctly pick up that I don't get it, or is there nothing more to this word?

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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Wellll, like others have said, twink is a long standing term for very feminine presenting gay men, with varying regional connotations as to whether they're also very thin and/or petite, and it can be used separate from a "flame", which is a term for the very flamboyant gay men regardless of their presentation or physical appearance.

There's a lot of overlap between twinks, flames, otters, and queens (which may or may not mean drag queens, depending on where you are). Some people use them interchangeably, others will use them as separate aspects.

Now, burger, I haven't heard in a long time among gay folks. The only gay specific usage I am aware of was complimentary, as in "mmm, I wanna get a bite of that burger". It was usually directed at someone with superior buns, though sometimes someone with a lot of meat. But the last time I heard that, I think it was maybe 1999? 98? And afaik, it wasn't one of those terms that was used everywhere.

Mind you, most of the above is filtered through media, and/or local gay culture in my area. I've never lived anywhere but the south, and only in one state. I've visited plenty of the east coast, and since I've always felt more comfortable around gay strangers than straight strangers, I have had some exposure to other local cultures. But the majority of what I've picked up is regional. You'd be amazed how much difference there is in the gay scene between Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville, Savannah, etc, just here in the south. You go north and things can be even less familiar.

Back in the day, a lot of the slang and culture traveled with drag queens. The ones that would travel for shows carried all the news and culture with them, like fabulous bards.

Anyway, memory lane aside, that's the only context I've heard burger used for specific to gay culture.

[–] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If this is the context, I believe it has nothing to do with gays or twinks.

Just a sad anime image meant to convey an emotional response, according to Tineye, first seen around 2016, on pages no longer reachable.

First memetized around 2017, with the following image : même

Translated labels from left to right : "Your new 'waifu of the season'", "you", "Your waifu, to whom you'd vowed eternal love". At this stage, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree: The meme is still aimed at the weeb community that saw its birth, and still makes use of the context implyed by the image.

But to interpret what comes next, you must take into account the rise of "cringe" culture in the early 2020s. Former memes, deemed "cringe", saw a new birth under several layers of irony to highlight their absurd nature. Here is another meme that underwent the same fate : https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/im-fine

This era also saw the appearance of the words "pog", "poggers" and "pogchamp", all of which quickly became cringe. The above meme can therefore be interpreted as a pile of cringe meant to be absurd.

What about burgers? The burger also has a place in meme culture. can I has cheeseburger

Declaring one's taste for a trash food or another belongs to another memetic trop, that of appearing relatable and whimsical. Most old memes using this trope appear cringe by today's standard. The image may be a meta-meme about itself, describing the memer's transition from pre-cringe to post-cringe culture, from "burgers" to "poggers", and burying the image macros under countless layers of irony.

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