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[–] The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Alright, I'm only going to address your first paragraph because ... THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT IS BEING DONE. Like, wtf are you talking about?

Any time a post or comment says something about personal responsibility, in comes some one getting mad and complaining, trying to shift all the blame away, just like in the comment I replied to.

Meanwhile, the opposite never happens. I've never seen some who talks about personal responsibility who doesn't also agree that governments and corporations are responsible.

Me and OP were not the ones to go into posts criticizing the government and corporations, and get mad and act condescendinly while saying that that it's all about personal responsibility and you shouldn't blame corpos and govs. I talk plenty of shit about them, I bet so does OP; the difference is that we don't pretend like personal choices by everyday people doesn't play into it.

[–] LemmyAtEmLemmyAtEm@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

If you think saying that governments and corporations being "overwhemingly more responsible" is shifting "all" the blame away, then idk what to tell you. Because it is a factually correct statement. They have more power and control than any of us. It doesn't mean personal choices don't play into it, nor does it come off to me as pretending that's the case. I don't get the idea of seeing people rightfully complaining about our demonstrably shit leadership, and feeling the urge to claim that people are shifting blame. I really don't get it.

Mate, it's about context, time, and place.

When the talk is about personal responsibility and some one comes in all mad that people aren't currently criticizing the government and corporations, implying it's not a "grown up conversation", then that shifting blame and trying to skirt responsibility. You don't have to convince me the government is bad because I already agree; it's the other people in this thread who are having a fit at OP and being condescending because of the mention of personal responsibility.