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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/20641619

[Excerpt on #Gaza: "If you really care about Gaza, vote to have a voice, so you can do something about it. And then, be ready to turn out into the streets, in the millions, and fight for it."]

Mark Hertsgaard
Mon 23 Sep 2024 06.00 EDT

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[–] dhhyfddehhfyy4673@fedia.io -3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

vote to have a voice

But remember, you can't just say what you want with that voice.

[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

The only voice in America is money, and we don't have it. If our voice mattered we wouldn't be in several proxy wars, there wouldnt be 750k homeless, there wouldn't be 69% living paycheck to paycheck, there wouldnt be marginalized communities

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

The only folks who have a voice are the rich donor class and groups like AIPAC.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If you deny a party your voice if they oppose your views on fundamental issues, they have to win it back. If you give it to them no matter what, they know they don't have to listen to you.

It is simple logic. But people have been throwing out all matters of logic, like denying Biden to be too senile for another term or saying it is okay to have him just be a puppet, as long as it is not Trump. And big surprise, pushing Biden away from another candidacy turned a sure Trump win into an open race.

Imagine what would happen if the Dems started to listen to the people instead of their AIPAC handlers and stopped the genocide, like the majority of Americans and especially American Jews want. They could win in a landslide. But continuing genocide seems to be more important than stopping Trump.