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F1 teams look set to give the go-ahead to plans for a rookie sprint race after the Abu Dhabi season finale

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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] jimbolauski@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Giving rookies and reserve drivers an opportunity to race in an F1 car is not a gimmick.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well let's examine what currently happens. They have the F3 series and the F2 series where they can get experience. Same guys, if they're good enough, are on F1 simulators all the time and get F1 tests. Should a seat open up in the 20 available, they get consideration, at the tender age of 18 or younger.

Now the plan is to put them in some shitbox occasionally to do the same thing. Like F1 Academy, this is really a plan to add to the entertainment package for marketing purposes. It's a gimmick. You want to give them more experience? Add to the F2 schedule.

[–] jimbolauski@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What currently happens is back up drivers get one P1 session a season and some test laps. Sims, F2, and F3 cars are not the same as driving a real F1 car, that's why none of those can be used for the 100km f1 driving requirement (testing doesn't count either) for a super license.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They get a Super license through F2.

I haven't seen a problem with the rookies who have started in F1, have you? Bearman, Colapinto, have all done pretty well in full F1 races without further F1 car experience. And let's not forget all those guys on the grid that came in to the sport without any big F1 car experience and have done just fine.

[–] jimbolauski@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They get a Super license through F2.

Yes they can earn a license through F2, but if they are a champion they can't come back.

A driver who has held a valid super licence for any of the previous three seasons is eligible for a new licence if they have completed 100 km in a free practice session in the last 3 years

I haven’t seen a problem with the rookies who have started in F1, have you? Bearman, Colapinto, have all done pretty well in full F1 races without further F1 car experience. And let’s not forget all those guys on the grid that came in to the sport without any big F1 car experience and have done just fine.

Because of such limited opportunities only a few drivers even get a chance to drive an F1 car. Why are you so against more drivers getting opportunities to prove themselves.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

First of all, if you want to drive a current F1 car you'll have to have an active Super License, the FIA approval for time running on the chassis, and most important a constructor that's willing to let you put time on the chassis. After all, these cars represent several 100s of million dollars are are manufactured for the WCC, nothing else. These rookies will not be driving the current iteration of a F1 car. At best, they would drive the car from last season. But, the difference between an F2 car and last year's iteration of a F1 car is not that great, except perhaps the braking. Hell, I really don't care if they run them, I'm just calling it what it is - a gimmick

[–] jimbolauski@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You should read up on super license requirements, they are renewed annually drivers need 100km in an F1 car in a practice session. Further all qualifications expire after 3 years so all drivers need practice laps to renew their license.

These rookies will not be driving the current iteration of a F1 car.

Do you have a source for that? The young drivers test, which this is replacing, teams used the current car.

But, the difference between an F2 car and last year’s iteration of a F1 car is not that great, except perhaps the braking.

Except for 40% more HP, tons more downforce, F1 cars are 10 seconds faster on just about any f1 circuit many circuits it's 20 seconds.

Hell, I really don’t care if they run them, I’m just calling it what it is - a gimmick

You clearly do as evidence by your responses. Is it a gimmick when they run the young drivers test?

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You should read up on super license

I actually held an FIA license, though not a Super license for a hand full of years. Let it lapse.

Do you have a source for that?

Logic. You don't spend money on a hundred million dollar car so a rookie can put it into a wall without the ability to make hundreds of millions more in return.

Except for 40% more HP...

You'd be amazed what little difference that makes. Used to know a guy that raced a Formula Ford and a CanAm car on a race weekend. He switched between them like there was no difference

You clearly do as evidence by your responses

I find this tedious.

[–] jimbolauski@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

I actually held an FIA license, though not a Super license for a hand full of years. Let it lapse.

So you don't know about the requirements for a superlicense, that was all ready evident.

Logic. You don’t spend money on a hundred million dollar car so a rookie can put it into a wall without the ability to make hundreds of millions more in return.

So no evidence to support that claim, add to that the young drivers tests since they were enacted have used the the car from the season that just ended.

You’d be amazed what little difference that makes. Used to know a guy that raced a Formula Ford and a CanAm car on a race weekend. He switched between them like there was no difference

So you heard from a friend ... Guess we know why your racing career didn't progress, you can't feel the difference in a huge power increase.

[–] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

Now the plan is to put them in some shitbox occasionally to do the same thing.

I thought the rookies will be racing the cars of the respective teams with whom they are allied with not in some random machinery. Like each constructors puts a car with a rookie