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“Jill Stein is a useful idiot for Russia. After parroting Kremlin talking points and being propped up by bad actors in 2016 she’s at it again,” DNC spokesman Matt Corridoni said in a statement to The Bulwark. “Jill Stein won’t become president, but her spoiler candidacy—that both the GOP and Putin have previously shown interest in—can help decide who wins. A vote for Stein is a vote for Trump.”

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[–] quoll@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

then stop bitching and unfuck your electoral system

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh, it can be done, but that means amending the Constitution.

To do that you need 290 votes in the House, the people who needed 15 tries to get a simple 218 vote majority to pick their own leader.

Then you need 67 votes in the Senate, a body that's incapactitated by needing 60 votes to overcome a filibuster.

Then you need ratification from 38 states, when 25 went to Biden in 2020 and 25 went to Trump.

There may be a way around it, but that doesn't kick in until enough states with 270 Electoral College votes agree to it, and that hasn't happened yet either:

https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/written-explanation

[–] diskmaster23@lemmy.one 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Man, it's incredibly hard to change anything.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yup! And intentionally so!

Thomas Jefferson's preference was to throw out the whole thing and re-do it every 20 years. Can you imagine?

https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/jefferson-memorial-education-each-new-generation.htm

"It has then, like them, a right to choose for itself the form of government it believes most promotive of its own happiness; consequently, to accommodate to the circumstances in which it finds itself, that received from its predecessors; and it is for the peace and good of mankind, that a solemn opportunity of doing this every nineteen or twenty years, should be provided by the constitution; so that it may be handed on, with periodical repairs, from generation to generation, to the end of time, if anything human can so long endure."

Can you imagine? The Constitution was ratified in 1788, took effect in 1789.

So, by Jefferson's standard, we should be on our 11th Constitution by now? Ratified in 2008? Next one due in 2028.