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So .. it is a tool to automate time fraud?
Make sure to put this front and center on your CV
Hey, thanks for the comment. I get that it might be used for something shady, but that’s not the intention. The primary goal is to clean up raw time-tracking data into a format that’s easy to present to clients or supervisors, especially for contexts when small gaps or irregularities should be absent.
I imagine most professionals aren’t expected to account for every single minute of their workday. For example, if you’re switching tasks or taking short breaks. It’s more about reporting general productivity or overall progression of tasks, not trying to inflate hours.
Anyone aiming for 'time fraud' could probably find easier methods. My focus is to make life easier for people who already track their work but want cleaner, more digestible reports.
Appreciate the feedback though, helps me make sure the use case is clear! :)
Pretending the most important use of bit torrent is Linux ISO's is the kind of cya that people giggle at.
If a candidate I am interviewing has a tool to change their reported hours to me or clients on their public GitHub? That person is radioactive no matter how many times they say "but don't do anything naughty wink wink"
Am I missing something? It looks like OP has to track their time and send it to a client or superior. What is wrong with making a tool to track your time over using excel? I'm sure if they wanted it through a specific end point they would have provided that.
The logic in the flowchart appears to take in data and mainuplate it based on normalization and ratios to fill the day. So it outputs a report with time that doesn't precisely match the tracked data, but looks nicer for the boss.
Exactly! My tool is designed to work with existing time-tracking tools by processing their output. You can think of it as a post-processor that helps clean up and format the data.
Since there are already plenty of time-tracking tools out there (both CLI and GUI), I wanted something that could act as a flexible add-on for them.
I guess if, as this person says, the intended use is made clear then presumably so long as the original logs from which the report was generated are retained then there shouldn't really be an issue. Make your nice, digestible reports that normalise over a workday and give a more grand overview of progress, and if they smell a bit too rosy or you just sometimes need a more granular accounting of time then clients/bosses can request the original raw data from the contractor/employee. Maybe this software itself should include some ability to retain a log of the processing that was done so that the relationship between its generated reports and the source data can be more clearly audited if some kind of a trust issue arises.
The hope I guess would be that you make it clear that this is a more executive summary style of report that you've added as a courtesy because it's more useful in context and that's hopefully enough for whoever you're reporting to but if they want more transparency or detail it's all there for them too.
Tracking time is fine.
Normalizing your time to the hours you were supposed to work is a massive no no. Especially if you are expected to break down your hours per project.
I mean, you obviously do it. But you never put it in writing.
Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime.
That's why I use this app to normalize time.
Totally understand your perspective, and I’m not here to push back against it. You’ve got a valid point.
I’ll just add that there are already commercial tools that do similar things to what I’m building. It’s interesting to consider how perceptions might shift if a tool were released by a company rather than a solo developer. Sometimes the context influences how a tool is interpreted, even if the underlying functionality remains the same. For what it’s worth, I have no commercial intent behind this.
Honestly I think it's good. The amount of context switching and with breaks, working on several things at once. To normalize that down to a working day seems reasonable
It isn't about being reasonable.
If you are expected to track your time to this degree (and, to make it clear, the majority of employers actively don't want you to), there is a reason. That reason usually being different funding sources. Generally a mix of grants and clients.
And if a client or grant source finds out you are lying about those? Maybe you only had enough work to do 34 hours instead of 40 hours in one week. Would you be cool paying extra because the guy repairing your muffler had a slow week?
And if people think being proud of a tool that openly talks about what everyone else silently does isn't a red flag for employers? Hey, its a great job market so I am sure none of that will matter.
I mean if you want to do time fraud you pretty much just can. You can start tracking a task at 9am then immediately go to make a coffee and chat to a coworker until half 9 to run up the clock. You really don’t need a fancy tool for that.
However a tool to make data more digestible and readable shows a level of interest in presentation of data. I would be less concerned about that. Someone willfully doing time fraud wouldn’t advertise it.