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“Federal Election Commission records show Stein paid $100,000 in July to a consulting outfit that has worked with Republican campaigns, as well as Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s independent presidential bid. The firm, Accelevate, is operated by Trent Pool. The Intercept reported that he appeared to be part of the mob that breached the grounds of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6., 2021. The Journal hasn’t independently verified the reporting.”

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[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

No! Come on, everyone! Third party candidates are what's best for the country. We aren't doing this to dilute the vote, we just want to have our voices heard. Sure, everything we are saying is being said by the main two parties, but we also smoke a lot of weed. So, come on, guys, just vote for the Green Party.

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I vote Green.

Because I live in a country with an actual proportional representation system, so my vote for a minor party still allows the major party that I most closely align with to gain power

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That has no barring on the Green Party this post is about. They are not the same just because they share a name.

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I guess my point is less about the party specifically, are more that your country might not be collapsing quite so quickly if 49% of the population didn't feel massively disenfranchised every 4 years, and if there were actually incentives for collaboration and compromise between different view points

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Roughly half of the States in the US have a higher population than the entirety of New Zealand. That is a much larger population to deal with, and the politics don't apply the same way. It isn't linear, it's logarithmic. The more people there are, the more exponentially difficult it is to manage. The Urban area of my city has about half of the Population of New Zealand, and my city has third party representation on the local level. Please, keep your condescension to yourself.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And I couldn't be more happy for you.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Whoop di do, who gives a fuck?

Hear, hear!

She rejects the notion that her presence in the race could help Trump.

She can't acknowledge that it's possible this year? When it was known for a fact that it happened eight years ago?

I think everyone basically agrees - the key to getting those voices heard is to build the party from the bottom up, develop a grassroots and get folks elected at all levels of government who can help influence policy, starting local. Stein is the opposite of that.

Before Stein, the Green party had a marginal presence and was likely on the way out... I almost wonder, what if it actually did fall apart and die while Stein was in charge, but she kept the clothes?