Yes, designing the chips is obscenely expensive. Microsoft and Sony aren't using off the shelf $5 SoCs. They're partnering with AMD, using AMD's IP, to make custom designs specifically tailored to their design goals. The fact that you think you can talk about R&D costs without understanding this basic reality is hilarious. Validating high performance custom SoC designs takes a tremendous amount of very limited capacity of small batch test manufacturing ability to get to an end product.

I promise you Sony spent more developing their triggers than Nintendo did on the joycon. That actually is new tech. Putting IR and nfc sensors that already exist onto a controller isn't that expensive. Developing new tech is where costs come from. Sony isn't spending a couple hundred million. They're spending billions, every year.

Even after kicking their investment up for a switch 2 that can't use an off the shelf chip because there isn't one, they're still spending less than half of what Sony does.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Surely. You won't fail to supply any data to back up your ludicrous claims this time, will you?

[–] Sgagvefey@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Do the search yourself with whatever source you trust. They all have the same information.

Sony spent over 2 billion on R&D in gaming last year, which doesn't count the guaranteed volume that's also required to get leading edge chips. Nintendo still spent less than a billion (which is a big increase from the complete joke of investment leading into the switch, because the switch didn't take any research).

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Ah, yes. The good ol' "do your research sheeple" bit. Gotta love it. You've already claimed so much BS, why shouldsI take anything you say at face value?

Also: lol. Do you think that the technology in the Dual Sense's triggers is new? o.O

Do you actually even own a switch, if you're so desperate to dunk on Nintendo?

[–] Sgagvefey@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/92231/nintendo-boosts-spending-as-next-gen-switch-2-looms/index.html#:~:text=According%20to%20Nintendo's%202023%20annual,R%26D%20throughout%20Fiscal%20Year%202023.

With a nice chart showing how much of a joke their investment developing the Switch was.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/sony-boost-gaming-unit-with-217-bln-rd-war-chest-2024-nikkei-2023-07-12/

There are literally dozens, minimum, of sources with the same numbers. They're in annual reports and not secret or debatable at all.

Everything I've said is accurate. You're the one pretending putting one of the worst controllers ever made together with off the shelf parts is somehow comparable to designing custom SoCs on cutting edge nodes.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago

Ah, yes... "accurate" claims like

the third best selling console of all time behind the ps2 and the ds is dependant on "collectors"
that Breath of the wild was an old game when the switch released
that Nintendo didn't "do risks"
"All of the Switch's popularity is because of third party games", when the 24 best selling switch games are all published by Nintendo.

Give me a break