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[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 93 points 1 month ago (41 children)

Anarchism isn't the absence of rules but the absence of authority. Some anarchist ideas even replace the centralized authority figure with rules that apply to everyone and of cause free association so you are not forced to follow them and can move on instead

[–] MuAraeOracle@real.lemmy.fan 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's always good to learn something from comments under memes. You make me think about libertarianism that sounds like a different (right wing) take on anarchism.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well you learned the wrong here, anarchy isnt the absence of authority it's the absence of hierarchy.

Some systems are clearly hierarchical, capitalism, dictatorship, feudalism.

Now I have a hard time imagining how you would enforce certain laws, or rules without authority.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Authority is usually understood by anarchists as a component of hierarchy. I'd be interested to hear your definition that doesn't make it hierarchical.

And there are ways of enforcing rules that don't require authority, like diffuse sanctions, essentially community-based enforcement.

There's a whole school of anti-carceral justice thought that deals with this.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago

I'm not sure what makes you think of (right wing) libertarians. I specified the absence of authority. Libertarians are fond of the idea of voluntary contracts – or let's rather call it voluntary authority – which in effect is never voluntary. You can choose for whom to work but there is a ruling class you have to work for. All you can do is choose your oppressor.

Free association among equals on the other hand is a very common idea among (left/socialist) anarchists and I think very early on. You can choose and leave the community you belong to.

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