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Actually the USSR wanted to cooperate with Nazi Germany. The only problem was them invading the USSR. You cannot just bend the facts.
Actually, the USSR repeatedly tried to form an alliance with western powers against nazi Germany. You cannot just bend the facts.
USSR 🤝 Nazi Germany Src: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany%E2%80%93Soviet_Union_relations,_1918%E2%80%931941 (see Soviet negotiations regarding joining the Axis)
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#The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact
Anti-Communists and horseshoe-theorists love to tell anyone who will listen that the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact (1939) was a military alliance between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. They frame it as a cynical and opportunistic agreement between two totalitarian powers that paved the way for the outbreak of World War II in order to equate Communism with Fascism. They are, of course, missing key context in their effort to uniquely place blame on the USSR.
#German Background
The loss of World War I and the Treaty of Versailles had a profound effect on the German economy. Signed in 1919, the treaty imposed harsh reparations on the newly formed Weimar Republic (1919-1933), forcing the country to pay billions of dollars in damages to the Allied powers. The Treaty of Versailles, which ended the war, required Germany to cede all of its colonial possessions to the Allied powers. This included territories in Africa, Asia, and the Pacific, including German East Africa, German Southwest Africa, Togoland, Cameroon, and German New Guinea.
With an understanding of Historical Materialism and the role that Imperialism plays in maintaining a liberal democracy, it is clear that the National Bourgeoisie would embrace Fascism under these conditions. (Ask: "What is Imperialism?" and "What is Fascism?" for details)
Judeo-Bolshevism (a conspiracy theory which claimed that Jews were responsible for the Russian Revolution of 1917, and that they have used Communism as a cover to further their own interests) gained significant traction in Nazi Germany, where it became a central part of Nazi propaganda and ideology. Adolf Hitler and other leading members of the Nazi Party frequently used the term to vilify Jews and justify their persecution.
The Communist Party of Germany (KPD) was repressed by the Nazi regime soon after they came to power in 1933. In the weeks following the Reichstag Fire, the Nazis arrested and imprisoned thousands of Communists and other political dissidents. This played a significant role in the passage of the Enabling Act of 1933, which granted Hitler and the Nazi Party dictatorial powers and effectively dismantled the Weimar Republic.
#Soviet Background
Following the Russian Revolution in 1917, Great Britain and other Western powers placed strict trade restrictions on the Soviet Union. These restrictions were aimed at isolating the Soviet Union and weakening its economy in an attempt to force the new Communist government to collapse.
In the 1920s, the Soviet Union under Lenin's leadership was sympathetic towards Germany because the two countries shared a common enemy in the form of the Western capitalist powers, particularly France and Great Britain. The Soviet Union and Germany established diplomatic relations and engaged in economic cooperation with each other. The Soviet Union provided technical and economic assistance to Germany and in return, it received access to German industrial and technological expertise, as well as trade opportunities.
However, this cooperation was short-lived, and by the late 1920s, relations between the two countries had deteriorated. The Soviet Union's efforts to export its socialist ideology to Germany were met with resistance from the German government and the rising Nazi Party, which viewed Communism as a threat to its own ideology and ambitions.
#Collective Security (1933-1939)
However, the memories of the Russian Revolution and the fear of Communism were still fresh in the minds of many Western leaders, and there was a reluctance to enter into an alliance with the Soviet Union. They believed that Hitler was a bulwark against Communism and that a strong Germany could act as a buffer against Soviet expansion.
Instead of joining the USSR in a collective security alliance against Nazi Germany, the Western leaders decided to try appeasing Nazi Germany. As part of the policy of appeasement, several territories were ceded to Nazi Germany in the late 1930s:
However, instead of appeasing Nazi Germany by giving in to their territorial demands, these concessions only emboldened them and ultimately led to the outbreak of World War II.
#Other Pacts involving Nazi Germany
And this, of course, ignores all the pacts and treaties that Germany made with its Axis allies: Italy, Japan, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Finland, and Thailand.
#The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact
said could be dispatched, if Polish objections to the Red Army crossing its territory could first be overcome.
After trying and failing to get the Western capitalist powers to join the Soviet Union in a collective security alliance against Nazi Germany, and witnessing country after country being ceded, it became clear to Soviet leadership that war was inevitable-- and Poland was next.
Unfortunately, there was a widespread belief in Poland that Jews were overrepresented in the Soviet government and that the Soviet Union was being controlled by Jewish Communists. This conspiracy theory (Judeo-Bolshevism) was fueled by anti-Semitic propaganda that was prevalent in Poland at the time. The Polish government was strongly anti-Communist and had been actively involved in suppressing Communist movements in Poland and other parts of Europe. Furthermore, the Polish government believed that it could rely on the support of Britain and France in the event of a conflict with Nazi Germany. The Polish government had signed a mutual defense pact with Britain in March 1939, and believed that this would deter Germany from attacking Poland.
Seeing the writing on the wall, the Soviet Union made the difficult decision to do what it felt it needed to do to survive the coming conflict. At the time of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact's signing (August 1939), the Soviet Union was facing significant military pressure from the West, particularly from Britain and France, which were seeking to isolate the Soviet Union and undermine its influence in Europe. The Soviet Union saw the Pact as a way to counterbalance this pressure and to gain more time to build up its military strength and prepare for the inevitable conflict with Nazi Germany, which began less than two years later in June 1941 (Operation Barbarossa).
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How come this really looks like it has been copy pasted from some LLM?
sees a bunch of links and reference, bleats about LLMs 🤡
ok sry. I take it back. Didn’t know you could write like 400 WPM. My bad.
I'm guessing the concept of saving information for later use is completely beyond your imagination
And of course you were right. The USSR created a Utopia without concentration camps/working camps/ghettos/suppression of political opposition/… Just the opposite of those pesky capitalistic states which are actually all fascists.
nice straw man there, you're a very original troll
Is that now also some common capitalist misconceptions and the people freely worked in the Gulags or what?
speaking of gulags https://indi.ca/how-america-still-has-slavery/
An audio version
https://youtu.be/VhnCrHZkgNk?si=hbemx0P6yEfj6Rpg
Also: black women are partly the reason why your pfp was not the first men on the moon. Just some random fun fact to get you to embrace your hatred against me even more :P
You mean the black women who the US paid like shit to do critical math for the space program? (Including basically inventing the field of orbital mechanics) Those black women?
Yes. I mean women who fought against segregation in the US. But you seem to not be getting my point, which is to bad and why I won’t be bothered to argue anymore with people who cannot seem to see the colour grey - if you were to get that metaphor.
https://youtu.be/akj4lrS1bFY?si=DK8UIcqGr-ET2GFi
While the US had Jim Crow the soviet union had made racial discrimation a serious crime. Listen to these fascists interrogate Mr. Robeson and think about the context of anti-segregation activism with regards to the space race.
I'm not sure why you think the fact that Black women turned out to be smarter than wasps would bother me, but you do you little buddy.
Why would the Communists want to ally with the most rabid and violent anticommunists on the planet?
First of all because they did (facts). Second of all, because they weren’t true communists and just established a dictatorship based on propagated communism.
First of all, they did not (facts), they signed a non-aggression pact to bide their time while the West refused to ally against the Nazis, hoping that the Nazis and USSR destroyed each other.
Second of all, the Soviets were true Communists and established a Dictatorship of the Proletariat as is in line with Marxism.
Please read theory before you cosplay as an expert in what is and isn't "true" Communism, it's painfully clear that the furthest you've gotten is Wikipedia.
rEaD tHeOry!
Because that's all it is, and that's the only thing people like you have. Nothing real, only rEaD tHe tHeroRy!
reading to a liberal is like garlic to a vampire
Imaginary history is like candy to you people
the only thing imaginary here is your historical knowledge
Genuinely, what on Earth are you trying to say here? The other user was trying to say that the Soviets weren't "true Communists," which is wrong. It displays an utter lack of understanding what Socialism and Communism even are in the first place. Why speak so confidently on something they don't know about?
Are you trying to say that the Soviets didn't exist or something?
"Read theory" means "learn what the words you are using actually mean so you can analyze historical events, movements, and structures accurately."
Don't be allergic to reading.
Lmao.
Whatever you say armchair communist
You should read sometime too, you might learn something.
ThE tHeOrY, right? Lmao
Anything at this point. Theory would be nice, but even some good fiction like Piranesi would do you well.
Genuinely answer me this: if someone says something wrong, and they adamantly stick to their position in the face of evidence, and you know that reading a few pamphlets and maybe a book or two would help with clearing up this confusion, what do you recommend they do?
And what on Earth is an "imaginary government?"
dude would rather die than read a book... classic lib